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Old 01-24-2006, 12:16 AM   #331
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well that absolutely sucks.

without question my favourite political leader ever.
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Old 01-24-2006, 12:28 AM   #332
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Paul Martin is stepping down as leader of the Liberals. Let the leadership debate begin.
Definitely Frank McKenna.

Michael Ignatieff did not step down from an ultra prestigious Harvard Chair in Human Rights to come be a dinky MP for Etobicoke Lakeshore. Be sure of it.

Belinda $tronach is a potential wildcard.
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Old 01-24-2006, 12:30 AM   #333
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what about pierre pettigrew.

oh wait...he lost his seat.

BQ = bastards
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Old 01-24-2006, 12:31 AM   #334
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I'm surprised by my reaction but I actually started sobbing when Martin made his way to the podium. He had so much potential! Doesn't anyone remember 2 short years ago when he was the most popular politician in Canada?!

It's ironic how the pundits are throwing around names like Brian Tobin (whom I personally really like), John Manley, etc as possible Liberal leadership contenders yet these were the Chretienites of the Liberal party and therefore more closely associated with the "corrupt" few in the Party!
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Old 01-24-2006, 12:35 AM   #335
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yeah, that was pretty emotional.

he was 7ust at the wrong place at the wrong time...
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Old 01-24-2006, 12:38 AM   #336
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It doesnt really matter about Alberta, we only vote conservative. Ignatieff would do wonders for the thinking Canadians, dont get me wrong conservatives are thinkers, but people who arent reactionary and can look at a problem and solve it in out of the box ways.

Harper must be on the phone with Bush having a little chuckle right now.
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Old 01-24-2006, 12:38 AM   #337
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Why is everyone so glum?


Time to crack out the bottle of champagne.

The "we agree with everything" liberals are out.

Now hopefully Harper doesn't botch this up by letting too many of his alliance henchmen to play a role.


Progressive Conservative for life...
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Sorry djfeelgood, the Progressive Conservatives died a few years ago.

The Progressive Conservatives had my support from time to time.
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Yeah, nothing progressive about these Conservatives and didn't Harper say something to that effect a couple years ago as well?
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Old 01-24-2006, 12:55 AM   #340
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http://www.theync.com/toptenvideo.htm

This cheered me up and then I was like OMG, this is what we have to look forward to.
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Old 01-24-2006, 01:18 AM   #341
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The turnout for this election was poor, CBC reported only 64% of the voters participated. It's sad that so many people either feel excluded from the process or are totally ambivalent to the outcome. I would like to see the politicians address this problem too. Although, that would mean actually doing an effective job in Parliament which with a minority government appears to be unlikely.
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Is 64% above or below average?

The US average is lower, if I recall correctly.
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The US is lower, 55.3% in 2004 & that was the highest turnout since 1968

it's sad really

here's a link to past US turnouts
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html
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Why sad? Not voting is a statement in itself.
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not voting is a waste of one of the rights/freedoms you have in this country, even if you don't agree with either of the 2 main candidates. then find a minor candidate you like but for goodness sake at least vote.
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