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Old 03-19-2007, 10:43 AM   #1
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Can you trust findings of Guantanamo military tribunals?

It seems like the last few days have produced some pretty huge admissions of guilt from a couple of Guantanamo Bay "detainees." But with the overall sketchiness of Guantanamo, the terrible treatment the prisoners have received, the ignorance toward the Geneva Convention, the human rights atrocities, the lack of charges brought against most of the prisoners, and again..just the overall sketchiness of Guantanamo Bay----can we really be expected to believe admissions of guilt that come out of the semi-secret military tribunals taking place there??
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Oh, but they are terrorists they have no rights. And according to some posters in here it's like summer camp for them.

So don't even worry about it.
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:28 PM   #3
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Of course I believe it. They wouldn't be there if they weren't guilty. The government wouldn't condemm innocent men and women.

Until proven otherwise, I believe everything the U.S. government tells me because I know that George Bush wouldn't lie.
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No I don't trust or believe them very much.

I do believe that KSM was involved in the 911 attack.

the Perle family is skeptical of his confession.


These trials will do the U S no real good.

It seems all the Administration is concerned about is maintaining some credibility with it's gullible base.

If they lose any of more support they will not be able to go on.
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Of course I believe it. They wouldn't be there if they weren't guilty. The government wouldn't condemm innocent men and women.

Until proven otherwise, I believe everything the U.S. government tells me because I know that George Bush wouldn't lie.
The more and more you post the more and more I think it's one big joke.

How can they be guilty if there's no true evidence or trial? Were they caught with their terrorist photo ID on them? They've already released innocents that were there years, why should you think there aren't more? Seriously that's just scary.
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I'm pretty sure AchtungBono is a joke of some kind, I don't know anybody who would believe everything what any government tells them.
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Well in context of her other posts, I doubt she's kidding. Unless everything she's posted is just one big joke.
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How can they be guilty if there's no true evidence or trial? Were they caught with their terrorist photo ID on them? They've already released innocents that were there years, why should you think there aren't more? Seriously that's just scary.
The Administration and supporters point to the releases as proof that the process works.

If 30- 50 % are released,
then the remaining prisoners must have good evidence against them.
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I believe every woman burned by the church was indeed a witch.
She wouldn't have been there if she wasn't guilty.

And why should the church have lied?

Of course I believe every single word a politician says. Why should e.g. Chavez lie, or Castro, or Bush, or Merkel, or Blair?

Politicians lying? Never.
People telling everything when after they have been brutally tortured for hours, and of course it's always the truth.

Why should a woman in the middle age should have said she was a witch when she wasn't?
Why should a man nowadays say he is a terrorist when he wasn't.
I'm sure part of what Sheich Muhammad was the truth, and his involvement in 9/11 probably was.

But that every single word was the truth? No.

AchtungBono, you said you are 48 years old, how can you still be so naive about politicians? Seriously.


Like a German satire magazine quoted:
"And Kennedy! I've strangled Kennedy, too! With the belt of his own bath robe!"

Sheich Muhammad.
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The Administration and supporters point to the releases as proof that the process works.

If 30- 50 % are released,
then the remaining prisoners must have good evidence against them.
And yes that may be justifiable is some backasswards way, but how do they justify to the innocent man that they stole 2 years of his life for no reason?
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I believe every woman burned by the church was indeed a witch.
She wouldn't have been there if she wasn't guilty.

And why should the church have lied?

Well to be fair, they did have those full proof tests. At least they were given a trial.
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Ah, yes, the trial without defense after the torture.

And the full proof tests were really great.
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And yes that may be justifiable is some backasswards way, but how do they justify to the innocent man that they stole 2 years of his life for no reason?
How bad is it really?

He got three hala (Muslim) meals a day?

He got a Koran and prayer rug with a directional arrow to Mecca for his five times a day praying.

He was detained for a good reason.
Why was he in a "Madrassa" in Pakistan?

We may never really know for sure.

But, now he is free again.

If he was detained by Muslims
most likely his head and body would be in different geografic locations.

Life is not perfect.
But, have you noticed we have not had another 911 attack?

So, I guess I will bitch a little less when I have to take my shoes off at the airport.
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Yes, and he received free water boarding every now and then.
And he could feel like a heretic, a Muslim Giordano Bruno so to speak.
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Well I've heard the directional arrow was pointing in the opposite direction, so Mecca wasn't getting his messages. And that's the real reason we haven't had another 911 attack.

Brilliant move by our beloved administration.
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