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Old 01-15-2007, 08:44 AM   #16
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I'm sure he was threatened- there is mental abuse that goes along with all of that, Stockholm syndrome, etc. I'm sure he must have been sexually abused too, the guy is allegedly a sex offender. Of course now everyone who knew this Devlin guy is saying they had no indication he was anything other than "normal".

If only other cases could be resolved like this one. There are several sites with pictures and info about missing kids, one is

www.missingkids.com
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Old 01-15-2007, 12:56 PM   #17
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I just wanna know what he was doing locked up in there for four years.
yeah, you probably don't.

miss harlem's more on target here. it's far from happily ending.
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Interesting, I've read the kidnapper didn't have any criminal record. Only a few fines for traffic violation.

Now he's an alleged sex offender.
Would be interesting what's true, and what is made up by the media.

They say further, said the boy was seen outside, slept over at friend's places, talked to the neighbours and even owned a cell phone.
If that's true he either was massively brainwashed, or had a pretty high "reaction" of the Stockholm syndrome (sorry, don't know how to say it in English).


It's a weird story, and hopefully not too much happened.
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:31 PM   #19
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Interesting, I've read the kidnapper didn't have any criminal record. Only a few fines for traffic violation.

Now he's an alleged sex offender.
Would be interesting what's true, and what is made up by the media.
What happened was the media got confused. There is another guy in St Louis that has the same name, and he is a registered sex offender in Utah for indecent exposure. They showed his picture on the news and everything. But woops, it was the wrong guy.

The real kidnapper was not a registered sex offender.
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:35 PM   #20
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There are some reports they have found child porn on Devlin's computer, I don't know if that will turn out to be true.

At first there were news reports that he was an offender, but apparently that wasn't true- well at least he has no convictions. Who knows what really happened, obviously Shawn does but I'm sure it is all very difficult and confusing for him. I hope he can eventually be as ok as possible, given what has happened to him.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...him/article.do

Kidnap victim Shawn Hornbeck was "brainwashed" into staying with his abductor after being told his parents no longer wanted him.

His kidnapper also threatened to shoot the 15-year-old after snatching him off the street.

Friends of the teenager have revealed Michael Devlin, 41, had at least three guns in the apartment where Shawn was held captive.

Tony Douglas, 15, who was Shawn's best friend, said: "We both knew there were guns in the house. Michael told us that he had the guns and were for his protection."

Shawn's stepfather Craig Akers, 45, has revealed his son's life was threatened by Devlin while he lived with him in a ground floor flat in Kirkwood, a suburb of St Louis, Missouri.

Police and psychologists will tomorrow begin to question Shawn about his four years as a prisoner. They believe he suffered "Stockholm Syndrome", where a victim begins to identify with the captor.
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Old 01-15-2007, 04:18 PM   #21
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Well there was a messageboard on this website and the kidnapper posted a message asking how long they were going to keep looking for their kid.

Pretty creepy. Hopefully he'll be able to overcome the abuse he took during the 4 years.


I'm so happy for those two families!
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Yet more proof the Bill O'Reilly is an idiot:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200701170009

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UNION, Missouri (CNN) -- Pizza manager Michael J. Devlin admitted to police that he snatched a 13-year-old Missouri boy, a prosecutor said Thursday.

"When Mr. Devlin was taken into custody, he did confess that he had kidnapped Ben Ownby from Franklin County," prosecutor Robert Parks told a news conference.

Devlin, 41, pleaded not guilty to kidnapping a child under age 14 at a hearing Thursday. The boy was referred to in court by his initials, "W.O."

"I'm not guilty," Devlin said during a brief appearance via video link from the county jail. The charge carries a maximum penalty of 30 years to life in prison.

Security concerns kept Devlin from appearing in person before Judge David Tobin at the Franklin County Courthouse. He is being held in isolation on $1 million bail.

Devlin's attorneys said the not guilty plea was a procedural matter. They would not comment on the alleged confession, which was revealed after the hearing.

The attorneys said they are concerned that Devlin will not be able to receive a fair trial because of the intense media coverage of a developing drama receiving national attention.

Devlin is being held in isolation for his own safety, authorities said. His next court date was scheduled March 15, but prosecutor Parks said a grand jury is likely to get the case before then.

Ben was found with another missing teen, Shawn Hornbeck, on Friday in Devlin's apartment in Kirkwood, a St. Louis suburb. Ben had been missing for four days, Shawn for more than four years.


Similarities with 1991 case?

Authorities continue to examine similarities between the boys' alleged abductions and the 1991 disappearance of 11-year-old Arlin Henderson in Moscow Mills.

Both Shawn and Arlin were last seen riding bicycles.

Arlin had a crew cut and was wearing a camouflage shirt and pants.

Arlin bore a physical resemblance to Ben, a 13-year-old who was allegedly kidnapped January 8 as he got off the school bus near his home in Union.

Devlin has been charged with two counts of kidnapping and armed criminal action, which carries a minimum of three years.

The latter charge stems from an allegation that Devlin kidnapped Shawn at gunpoint, said Washington County Sheriff Kevin Schroeder.

Meanwhile, Missouri authorities said they are looking into the possibility that Devlin also may have monitored or even participated in a 2005 search for another missing child to learn police investigative techniques in such situations.

Lincoln County detective Chris Bartlett said Devlin was, at the very least, aware of the search for Bianca Noel Piper, 13, who disappeared in March 2005.

"Whether he was a part of it, in it or in the middle, or just watching from afar, he absolutely knew what was going on," Bartlett said. "I certainly believe Michael Devlin was monitoring our search and the disappearance of Bianca Piper."


Evidence being pooled

Police said the recovery of Ben and Shawn has breathed new life into the Piper and Henderson investigations, prompting a few more tips in those cases. Lincoln County Sheriff's Lt. Rick Harrell said that Devlin's name is being checked against archived logs and investigation files from both disappearances.

Addressing reporters Wednesday, Washington County prosecutor John Rupp said there is no question that Shawn was kidnapped and was not with Devlin voluntarily.

"Shawn was abducted against his will. Period. End of the story," Rupp said.

Parks, the Franklin County prosecutor, said he and his counterparts in other counties involved in the case are "pooling all of our evidence" to determine what other charges will be brought against Devlin.

Ben's parents said Tuesday their son is recovering from the ordeal but has not discussed what happened.

"Ben's doing fine," Doris Ownby said.

She and her husband, William, have sought professional counseling for the entire family.

"They said not to push a child that's been through something like that," William Ownby said. "Eventually, they'll come to terms and volunteer that -- or not. That's fine. He hasn't volunteered anything -- yet. But they say it takes time."


Devlin confronted

Kirkland police officer Gary Wagster and fellow officer Chris Nelson started questioning Devlin outside his apartment building after they realized his truck matched the description of the suspect's vehicle in Ben's kidnapping.

They said that initially Devlin was happy and respectful to them.

"As the questions began to get more specific, that's when the attitude changed," Wagster said. "It threw a lot of red flags up for us."

Devlin's landlord described him as an ideal tenant, and Mike Prosperi, his boss for 25 years, said his employee never gave him trouble.

"I mean, he was my manager; he counted my money. ... And you just don't do that with somebody that you don't trust," Prosperi said.
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Old 01-18-2007, 11:53 AM   #24
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Yeah I'm sure Shawn must have loved his life with that guy, especially if he was molested. Bill O'Reilly should shut up, I wonder what he would say if God forbid someone kidnapped one of his children and they ended up in a situation like that.

I think it is a sad day indeed when people are making comments like that about a kidnapped child and making comments about a situation in which they have no idea about what happened. The finger needs to be pointed at Devlin.
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:05 PM   #25
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I just think its very scary for a person to be brainwashed that much that he can have relative freedom (ie sleeping at a friends house where the chance to escape would have been high, or a cell phone where he could have called the police etc) and still not act on it. I mean he was 11 when kidnapped, thats old enough to know wrong and right and all that stuff. 4 years is a VERY long time to be "kidnapped" and not do anything about it. Obviously this Stockholm Syndrome is a very powerful psychosis. But obviously not everyone gets it, so i wonder if just some people are susceptable to it?
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:13 PM   #26
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If an 11 year old child is kidnapped at gunpoint, probably repeated sexually molested, threatened with violence or death, told his family would be killed if he tried to escape, or told that his family had given up looking for him over and over again for 4 years, etc. - who knows what this horrible guy did to that kid - I think it's a good bet that by the time he was finally rescued, the kid was not thinking like a normal 15 year old would think about the possibility of escape.
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yeah if all that happened, then it can be understood for him to be emotionally scarred enough not to do anything, but we don't know anything about it - i'm not saying he chose to stay there (unlike o'wanker) but im just really interested in this stockholm syndrome - because it seems to have such a hold over people.

I would like to say something more personal, but don't really feel comfortable in explaining it to all and sundry. I just think not all kids are wired this way, and it would be interesting to see a study in which some kids are more suceptable to a kidnapper while others arn't.
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I don't doubt that some kids (and adults) are more likely to fall victim to stockholm syndrome than others, but like you said, we don't really know what when on in this case.

It's just that for O'Reilly to suggest the possibility that the kid stayed there because the kidnapper might have:

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Old 01-18-2007, 04:14 PM   #29
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Apparently Oprah interviewed Shawn today, I really hope that was handled in a very delicate way.
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:01 PM   #30
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Yeah, I hope so too. I used to like Oprah. Lately I've seen just how bloody annoying she really is - to the point of me wondering why she even has professionals and 'experts' on. She doesn't listen to anyone, and loves to repeat her catchy so-called intellectual gems of wisdom. She's a pain in the arse and should quit tv.
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