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Old 08-13-2007, 04:57 AM   #1
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Bye Bye Baby! -- Karl Rove resigns

In today's Wall Street Journal online edition:

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Karl Rove, President Bush's longtime political adviser, is resigning as White House deputy chief of staff effective Aug. 31, and returning to Texas, he said in an interview with Paul Gigot, editor of The Wall Street Journal's editorial page. (See related editorial.)

Mr. Rove, who has held a senior post in the White House since President Bush took office in January 2001, told Mr. Gigot he first floated the idea of leaving a year ago. But he delayed his departure as, first, Democrats took Congress, and then as the White House tackled debates on immigration and Iraq, he said. He said he decided to leave after White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten told senior aides that if they stayed past Labor Day they would be obliged to remain through the end of the president's term in January 2009.

"I just think it's time," Mr. Rove said in the interview. "There's always something that can keep you here, and as much as I'd like to be here, I've got to do this for the sake of my family." Mr. Rove and his wife have a home in Ingram, Texas, and a son who attends college in nearby San Antonio.

In the interview, Mr. Rove said he expects Democrats to give the 2008 presidential nomination to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, whom he described as "a tough, tenacious, fatally flawed candidate." He also said Republicans have "a very good chance" to hold onto the White House in next year's elections.

Mr. Rove also said he expects the president's approval rating to rise again, and that conditions in Iraq will improve as the U.S. military surge continues. He said he expects Democrats to be divided this fall in the battle over warrantless wiretapping, while the budget battle -- and a series of presidential vetoes -- should help Republicans gain an edge on spending restraint and taxes.

Mr. Rove has advised Mr. Bush for more than a decade, working with him closely since Mr. Bush first announced he was running for governor of Texas in 1993 and serving as chief strategist in his presidential campaign in 2000. Before joining the White House, he was president of Karl Rove & Company, the Austin, Texas-based public affairs firm he founded. Mr. Rove first became involved in Republican politics in the 1970s.

The Wall Street Journal published the interview Monday.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:08 AM   #3
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^ Above was perfect.
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See the rats scurrying away from the sinking ship...
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Republicans don't retire. They just shift around giving the semblance of it, hoping that the media stops paying attention.
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No. See the rat scurrying away from the still very much seaworthy ship--it has the sheeplike American people down in the scuppers bailing it out with buckets every time our stupid Congress keeps it afloat, supporting the captain's insane course tack.

Except he isn't scurrying. He's been cut a sweet deal, given means to float on a little raft to that island in the sun.

Okay, since it's a rat metaphor I can't make the comparison any longer and will have to speak in plain language.

Rove has joined Harriet Myers and others in agreeing to leave after he and the rest of Team Bush have mutually agreed that the Dems aren't backing down on Gonzo at least (whatever new powers they've just given him) and someday his sorry butt MAY get tossed into court after all. The charges? Where do we start? This #*$**$ has had his sticky fingers in EVERY piece of Bush pie since he helped him defeat Ann Richards in Texas. At least that was a fair election, in terms of the voting process.

I wonder, too, if Newsweek's damning new expose (by conservative pol Jonathan Alter no less!) on the proposed new California Proposition that would radically alter that state's electoral policy to split the Electoral Vote tally on a county-by-county basis instead of the winner getting all 55 Electoral votes (and this ONLY for Cali, and NO OTHER STATE) has anything to do with this? This proposal is blatantly unconstitutional, but it's no different than the sneaky tactics Der Rovester tried in Florida in 2000 or Ohio in '04. He probably didn't count on a huge media expose of this so early, nor by a conservative publication.

The scary thought is, the Dems will now take this as a sign that they have nothing more to fear from him, Election-wise. Nothing could be further from the truth, since he is now freed to run the Repub 2008 Campaign with a free "legal" hand, with little chance of interference or prosecution, since he'll be assumed to be buried on the ranch. Honestly: do you really REALLY think Team Decider is putting this guy on the shelf? Has he been reduced to "heckuva job" status yet? I don't think so. He'll "retire" --and Cheney is a typical VP.

This crap about thinking a yr or so he'd resign is just that, utter crap. Like the fact that Rummy was always going to resign, he just didn't make the right decision by resigning before November '06 and not before.

RIGHT. Like Rumsfeld would have resigned had the Repubs held Congress.

The worst thing now for Democrats would be if they get a false sense of confidence by thinking he's out of the way. Au contraire. This slimy bastard is now ten times more dangerous than ever before, IF that is possible.


EDIT: Der Rupster's WSJ. Now that he is the editor in chief of this paper I will NEVER trust it now. Fox News's chief Roger Ailes (remember him?), Murdoch, et al support Guliani. Any native New Yorker (or even Upstater with friends or reltives in NYC who lived under Guliani and REALLY knows him and isn't swayed by the starry-eyed crap he feeds the media aobut 9/11) would see what this says about them. In NYC Guliani is a pariah. And the reasons why he is a pariah are the ones he is supported by them for.

Why am I bringing up Guliani? Because he reportedly had some of Rove's staff working on his campaign....see the connection now?
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Karl Rove: an amoral opportunist, a hypocrite, or both?

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A book on Rove published last year provides behind the scenes glimpses of the man lengths he would go to win election.

In "The Architect: Karl Rove and the Master Plan for Absolute Power" writers James Moore and Wayne Slater reveal that Rove has told insiders he does not consider himself "a Christian", had a father who was gay, and regularly dealt with openly gay Republicans as he worked publicly to have a constitutional amendment passed that would ban same-sex marriage.

Rove's father, Louis, left the family and moved to California where he came out. Louis Rove died in Palm Springs as "his son was in the midst of launching the antigay issues campaign that was to lead to the re-election of George W. Bush."
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Karl Rove: an amoral opportunist, a hypocrite, or both?

Can we add asshole to the list of choices?
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about 7 years too late...
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I know Rove will still have influence but...



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He was Bush's brain, so does that mean Bush no longer has a brain?
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Well, at least Bush still has his heart (Cheney).
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Did he get a record contract for his aspiring rap career?
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Did he get a record contract for his aspiring rap career?
omg i hope so. that explains the sudden resignation.
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