Busted for being drunk...in a bar... - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 03-23-2006, 02:09 PM   #1
Blue Crack Addict
 
DaveC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: illegitimi non carborundum
Posts: 17,389
Local Time: 08:05 PM
Busted for being drunk...in a bar...

Is this even legal...?

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/03/23...eut/index.html

Quote:
SAN ANTONIO, Texas (Reuters) -- Texas has begun sending undercover agents into bars to arrest drinkers for being drunk, a spokeswoman for the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission said Wednesday.

The first sting operation was conducted recently in a Dallas suburb where agents infiltrated 36 bars and arrested 30 people for public intoxication, said the commission's Carolyn Beck.

Being in a bar does not exempt one from the state laws against public drunkenness, Beck said.

The goal, she said, was to detain drunks before they leave a bar and go do something dangerous like drive a car.

"We feel that the only way we're going to get at the drunk driving problem and the problem of people hurting each other while drunk is by crackdowns like this," she said.

"There are a lot of dangerous and stupid things people do when they're intoxicated, other than get behind the wheel of a car," Beck said. "People walk out into traffic and get run over, people jump off of balconies trying to reach a swimming pool and miss."

She said the sting operations would continue throughout the state.
__________________

__________________
DaveC is online now  
Old 03-23-2006, 02:13 PM   #2
Blue Crack Addict
 
nbcrusader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 22,071
Local Time: 05:05 PM
I guess it technically is still public intoxication - bars being public accommodations. This will put a huge burden on the bar owners.
__________________

__________________
nbcrusader is offline  
Old 03-23-2006, 02:13 PM   #3
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
BrownEyedBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: San Pedro Sula, Honduras
Posts: 3,510
Local Time: 07:05 PM
This doesn't make sense.
__________________
BrownEyedBoy is offline  
Old 03-23-2006, 02:32 PM   #4
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
 
BVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: between my head and heart
Posts: 40,651
Local Time: 07:05 PM
The pre-emptive strike has become very popular in all facets of life. The beauty is they don't have to make sense.
__________________
BVS is offline  
Old 03-23-2006, 02:33 PM   #5
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Irvine511's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 30,473
Local Time: 08:05 PM
wow.

well, time to buy a bottle of vodka and sit in the house and do shots all night.

__________________
Irvine511 is offline  
Old 03-23-2006, 02:33 PM   #6
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
Justin24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: San Mateo
Posts: 6,716
Local Time: 06:05 PM
I also heard now they are going to hotels with bars also.
__________________
Justin24 is offline  
Old 03-23-2006, 02:35 PM   #7
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Irvine511's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 30,473
Local Time: 08:05 PM
aren't there real crimes to worry about? drinking and driving is one thing, drinking in a bar is something altogether different.
__________________
Irvine511 is offline  
Old 03-23-2006, 02:38 PM   #8
Blue Crack Addict
 
DaveC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: illegitimi non carborundum
Posts: 17,389
Local Time: 08:05 PM
I want to know how it's legal to arrest someone for being drunk on the assumption that they may drive drunk later that night??

Sounds very Minority Report-like to me.
__________________
DaveC is online now  
Old 03-23-2006, 02:45 PM   #9
Refugee
 
AliEnvy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 2,320
Local Time: 01:05 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by nbcrusader
I guess it technically is still public intoxication - bars being public accommodations. This will put a huge burden on the bar owners.
Not to worry, I'm sure the drinks companies will pay off the right people to stay out of their business.
__________________
AliEnvy is offline  
Old 03-23-2006, 02:48 PM   #10
ONE
love, blood, life
 
snowbunny00774's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: londonontario
Posts: 12,298
Local Time: 09:05 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by DaveC
I want to know how it's legal to arrest someone for being drunk on the assumption that they may drive drunk later that night??

Sounds very Minority Report-like to me.
They are arresting them for breaking the public intoxication law.


*striking Texas off my "to visit" list*
__________________
snowbunny00774 is offline  
Old 03-23-2006, 02:56 PM   #11
Blue Crack Addict
 
DaveC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: illegitimi non carborundum
Posts: 17,389
Local Time: 08:05 PM
Yes, I know that. But the official says explicitly: "The goal, she said, was to detain drunks before they leave a bar and go do something dangerous like drive a car."

That's arresting someone for pre-crime, basically. Like arresting a sober 20 year old walking down the street on a Saturday night on the presumption that they might have a drink later that night and commit the crime of underage drinking.

It's excessive and unbelievably dumb.
__________________
DaveC is online now  
Old 03-23-2006, 02:56 PM   #12
Blue Crack Addict
 
nbcrusader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 22,071
Local Time: 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by DaveC
I want to know how it's legal to arrest someone for being drunk on the assumption that they may drive drunk later that night??
No, they are being targeted for violating a separate law - public intoxication.

Edited to say:

Sorry, it was mentioned above.
__________________
nbcrusader is offline  
Old 03-23-2006, 03:00 PM   #13
ONE
love, blood, life
 
snowbunny00774's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: londonontario
Posts: 12,298
Local Time: 09:05 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by DaveC
Yes, I know that. But the official says explicitly: "The goal, she said, was to detain drunks before they leave a bar and go do something dangerous like drive a car."

That's arresting someone for pre-crime, basically. Like arresting a sober 20 year old walking down the street on a Saturday night on the presumption that they might have a drink later that night and commit the crime of underage drinking.

It's excessive and unbelievably dumb.

There is a law against public intoxication. These people broke that law. That law would have been based on the intention to prevent people doing harm to themselves or others. By enforcing the public intoxication law, then yes the official is correct. But precrime prevention is not the charge they are getting booked under.
__________________
snowbunny00774 is offline  
Old 03-23-2006, 03:03 PM   #14
Blue Crack Addict
 
MrsSpringsteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 24,974
Local Time: 08:05 PM
Well I'm sure someone will challenge this in court very soon
__________________
MrsSpringsteen is offline  
Old 03-23-2006, 03:08 PM   #15
Blue Crack Addict
 
DaveC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: illegitimi non carborundum
Posts: 17,389
Local Time: 08:05 PM
That's completely ridiculous though. One should use common sense and assume that there will be public intoxication in places that serve alcohol. I could understand if they were busting people for being drunk at hockey games or something, but in a bar...? That's just stupid. What a waste of police resources.
__________________

__________________
DaveC is online now  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com