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Old 11-30-2004, 10:13 PM   #16
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Doesn't he believe the separation of Church and State applies to his administration?
Believe it or not, he does. If you watched the debates and press conferences, he reiterated time and time again that people are free to believe in what they want, or nothing at all. Separation of Church and State was intended so the government can't force people to be persecuted for their beliefs, like our founding fathers were back in England. The reinterpretation of it in modern society has gotten way out of line. They basically use it as a tool to kick God out of the country, when really it protects us from having a Middle East type of country where people are legally beaten and killed for not practicing the government-forced faith.

I agree with the rest of your post, I don't think Bush has been careful with his religious agenda, in a sense that he is claiming too much in God's name. In politics, people lie all the time, make bad mistakes, bury the truth, fight wars, and so on. To claim God's name on an imperfection is enough to throw people off. I think if he let it go, it would be a step closer towards uniting the country.
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Old 12-04-2004, 10:08 PM   #17
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It made me so angry when people challenged my 'christianess' because I told them who I was voting for. God is above and beyond any of our capabilities....and to say one "knew" who God would vote for As if you would understand a lick of it if God chose to sit you down and tell you the inner workings of the universe....
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It made me so angry when people challenged my 'christianess' because I told them who I was voting for.

I agree, I really hate it when people say God is a republican.

Here is a quote by Abraham Lincoln,

"Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right"
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Old 12-05-2004, 10:27 PM   #19
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Honest Abe gets two thumbs up.

Personally, I don't think Jesus would vote at all, and associating him with any political party is very demeaning.
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I think that Jesus would have managed to get killed at Waco.
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god cannot be by the side of any war, when bush's saying it, it's clear he must be under the influence of any hallucinogenic or spoiled drug
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God is always right"

so is W
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Old 01-06-2005, 09:44 PM   #24
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I definately don't think W is always right. Every presidency has had its share of mistakes.
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:32 PM   #25
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W never said it was Jesus' war. I believe he said freedom was God's gift to humanity.

This parallels the declaration of Inependence " We are endowed by our creator unalienable rights: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" or something to that effect.

So pro or anti war, to criticize this statement alone is to criticize one of the central tenets of the USA.

Also, Jesus summed up his relationship to politics in one phrase, "give to Caesar what is Caesar's. He also said, My kingdom is not of this world.
So as far as politics, he left us down here to sort it out for ourselves.
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"The Almighty God has blessed our land in many ways. He has given our people stout hearts and strong arms with which to strike mighty blows for freedom and truth. He has given our country a faith which has become the hope of all peoples in an anguished world. So we pray for Him now, for the vision to see our way clearly, to see the way that leads to a better life for ourselves and for all of our fellow men to the achievement of His will to peace on earth." FDR, 1945, 4th Inaugural address
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