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Old 12-07-2005, 09:36 PM   #76
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I don't need to wear crosses or throw Scripture at folks
I just had an imagine of someone saying, "Hey! You! Merry Christmas!" and chucking a Bible at them.

I think that's what I'll do this blessed holiday season.
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It's fine to show what you believe, but if you are wishing someone else a happy holiday, shouldn't you want to wish them a happy whatever holiday they celebrate? Or is it all about you? Are you really wishing them only happiness if they celebrate the same holiday as you?

I think this is the question so many who argue this "no backbone", "pc", etc aren't asking themselves.

In the spirit of giving, let's only think of ourselves.



If you want to show backbone and show people what you believe wear a cross, if you really want to show them how loving and compassionate a Christian can be then try and take their beliefs into consideration.
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Old 12-08-2005, 12:30 AM   #78
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i haven't read a single post in this thread, but i'll say this much.

christmas was originally intended for religious reasons, particularly the birth of christ.

if people have a hard time signifying that by calling december 25 "christmas", i think that's stupid. christmas is christmas. it's been that way for...well i guess 2005 years now?

being politcally correct is pointless. call it the way it is.

however, the way the neo-con groups go about this is, is of course, incredibly embarassing.

why, WHY do they care if stores don't call their "seasonal" sales "christmas" specials? i'd rather it not to be...that's exactly what's wrong with christmas anyway - the excessive commercialism. 7ust WHO's interests do they have in mind here???

so basically, i hate both sides of the arguement, but i'll call christmas what it is - CHRISTMAS.

if someone's offended by that, they can bite me. right in the ass. but beware of the hair - it's like straw. good luck with that.
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Old 12-08-2005, 12:38 AM   #79
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It's fine to show what you believe, but if you are wishing someone else a happy holiday, shouldn't you want to wish them a happy whatever holiday they celebrate? Or is it all about you? Are you really wishing them only happiness if they celebrate the same holiday as you?

I don't understand what is so terrible about wishing someone the more inclusive Happy Holidays. Christmas is a holiday, isn't it? So no one is leaving out Christmas when they say Happy Holidays, but you are leaving out every other holiday when you say Merry Christmas.
politcal correctness again.

i'm sorry indra, but with all due respect, and yes i do respect your opinions on 7ust about everything, this is fucked logic.

i'll wish anyone a merry christmas if i want to, and if they don't celebrate it - too bad. they are now, cause i told them to.

if you want to worry about stepping on toes to that extent, you'll die of ulcers by the time you're 35.

i hope this doesn't sound too harsh indra, because again, i really have nothing against you. 7ust your arguement.
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i haven't read a single post in this thread, but i'll say this much.

christmas was originally intended for religious reasons, particularly the birth of christ.

if people have a hard time signifying that by calling december 25 "christmas", i think that's stupid. christmas is christmas. it's been that way for...well i guess 2005 years now?

being politcally correct is pointless. call it the way it is.

however, the way the neo-con groups go about this is, is of course, incredibly embarassing.

why, WHY do they care if stores don't call their "seasonal" sales "christmas" specials? i'd rather it not to be...that's exactly what's wrong with christmas anyway - the excessive commercialism. 7ust WHO's interests do they have in mind here???

so basically, i hate both sides of the arguement, but i'll call christmas what it is - CHRISTMAS.

if someone's offended by that, they can bite me. right in the ass. but beware of the hair - it's like straw. good luck with that.
Chanukah isn't Christmas.
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i haven't read a single post in this thread, but i'll say this much.

christmas was originally intended for religious reasons, particularly the birth of christ.

if people have a hard time signifying that by calling december 25 "christmas", i think that's stupid. christmas is christmas. it's been that way for...well i guess 2005 years now?
Actually....Christmas (like Easter) is mostly secular. Christians took secular celebrations and added their own religious meaning to them.

(and I argue this as a Christian myself)

oh, and Christ was not born in the year 0.
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and i'm not 7ewish. what's your point?

if i was 7ewish i'd wish everyone a happy chanukah, and then i'd piss off the purists on the other side of the fence.

honestly, WHO CARES?

if people are truly offended about this, they have too much time on their hands.

if a muslim wished me happy tidings in respect to their most special holiday, do you think i'd be upset? of course not, i'd be happy to have the well-wish no matter the context of their religion. THAT'S TOLERANCE.
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politcal correctness again.

i'm sorry indra, but with all due respect, and yes i do respect your opinions on 7ust about everything, this is fucked logic.

i'll wish anyone a merry christmas if i want to, and if they don't celebrate it - too bad. they are now, cause i told them to.

if you want to worry about stepping on toes to that extent, you'll die of ulcers by the time you're 35.

i hope this doesn't sound too harsh indra, because again, i really have nothing against you. 7ust your arguement.
ummmm...well I'm not dead yet dear and I'm older than 35. Never had an ulcer in my life.

I don't see where consideration of other people is fucked logic. If you want to wish someone a Merry Christmas that is fine and dandy, but if I want to wish them a Happy Holiday that should be fine and dandy also.
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Actually....Christmas (like Easter) is mostly secular. Christians took secular celebrations and added their own religious meaning to them.

(and I argue this as a Christian myself)

oh, and Christ was not born in the year 0.
you totally missed my point, and i fear i have no idea what you're trying to say here either.

and the actual year christ was born isn't the point, it's not important, i used that date as an easy example.

christmas is "supposed" to be about christ, and the subsequent commercialistic downfall of said holiday is not something that was initially intended.
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What on earth makes them neoconservatives?
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ummmm...well I'm not dead yet dear and I'm older than 35. Never had an ulcer in my life.

I don't see where consideration of other people is fucked logic. If you want to wish someone a Merry Christmas that is fine and dandy, but if I want to wish them a Happy Holiday that should be fine and dandy also.
absolutely! i don't disagree with that at all.
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and i'm not 7ewish. what's your point?

if i was 7ewish i'd wish everyone a happy chanukah, and then i'd piss off the purists on the other side of the fence.

honestly, WHO CARES?

if people are truly offended about this, they have too much time on their hands.

if a muslim wished me happy tidings in respect to their most special holiday, do you think i'd be upset? of course not, i'd be happy to have the well-wish no matter the context of their religion. THAT'S TOLERANCE.
my point is there are more holidays in December than just Christmas. To say "It's Christmas, damn it" is only valid on Dec 25.

Hell, I don't care. I'll go for any holiday that get's me gifts and time off.

And I'll say Happy Holidays too! (actually I'm more apt to say Bah Humbug..... )
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absolutely! i don't disagree with that at all.
There you go! We've solved the problem. Everyone can now rejoice and dance naked around the festivus pole!
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my high school actually celebrated festivus last year. good times.
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Festivus is grounded in just as much fact as Christmas.
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