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Old 07-29-2004, 03:23 PM   #76
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Fizzing, if you are incapable of linking the two examples I mentioned, then thats not my problem. but the educational systems.
My intelligence is being questioned by the guy who thinks "idiotness" is a word and doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're?" How will I ever recover?
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Old 07-29-2004, 03:26 PM   #77
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Okay, PLEASE let's stick to the issues. The thread has gone really far afield, but there are still some intelligent postings going on, so I won't close it...yet.
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Could you articulate the plan? Cause Kerry hasn't.
Really?

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/n...2004_0704.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/nati...rity/iraq.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/n...004_0506b.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/s...2004_0430.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/r...004_0623e.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/r...s/pr_2004_0417

He may also mention it tonight. Tune in!
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I'm trying to touch on the issues and Fizzing hails perosnal insults to make his or her own point, sounds like self-esteem issues... sorry Fizzing to call you out on it

But Taking anything from the pressroom of John Kerry.com is not a good idea. Press rooms are known for spinning the truth to make their candidate (or anything) look good. Damage control is another synonym
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Did you read any of those links, or just look at the URLs?
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I don't think this war can be ended - The Invasion in Iraq created something like a second palestine in the mid-east.
I'm affraid it's getting worse, no matter which government tries to do. Maybe it would be just that the neocons who started that thing should move their offices to baghdad and try to solve the problems down there.

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I mean, do you think people like France who didn't support the war, and people in the middle east who hate us as 'infidels' are suddenly going to go, oh, it's okay now, they don't have Bush! I'm on their side now! Everything they do now is a-ok with us!
This could be true if Bush not only looses the elections but looses them massively so that the people in the rest of the world can see that Mr. Bushs politic isn't representative for what the US citizens want.
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His "plan" sounds like "get other people to help".
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I'm trying to touch on the issues and Fizzing hails perosnal insults to make his or her own point, sounds like self-esteem issues... sorry Fizzing to call you out on it
That's actually quite a refreshing change. I'm used to people accusing me of being arrogant, so being accused of having low self-esteem is really the least of my concerns. Anyway, I'm smarter than you, know more about politics than you do, and, unlike you, have the ability to spell and use punctuation and grammar correctly. Do I sound like the kind of girl who has self-esteem issues?
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(Just so I don't annoy anyone too much and in case the sarcasm wasn't obvious enough, that last post was written with tongue firmly in cheek. )
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His "plan" sounds like "get other people to help".
And this is bad because ...?
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Some of the links didn't work for me, but of the ones I did read, Kerry certainly is making some valid points. He speaks about how NATO has to become more active concerning other nations becoming involved. That sounds like a great idea, but the thing is: How will he do that? The answer is not posted in the press room. And perhaps Kerry doesn't know himself. If he was elected, do you think nations that have been pulling out go back in? Or nations that have fewer than 20,000 troops, will they add troops?

We're all on the same side here, but the only difference is how we will go around to fix this situation. And we have to remember that terrorists don't care - they see America as an evil empire. And don't forget that the same terrorists tried to take down the Towers in '93. Its an old problem that has to be dealt with.
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Fizzing, should we kiss and make up?
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And this is bad because ...?
It is simplistic and naive. He is playing to the sound bite, not articulating a plan.

But, that is what gets votes....
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Fizzing, should we kiss and make up?
Drop the kiss part of that sentence and you've got a deal.
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I think that if Kerry were president we would have a better chance of creating true international support for Iraq, including the countries that do not currently support us.
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