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Old 09-06-2005, 10:23 AM   #1
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bush to lead investigation into ... himself?

i'm sorry to those who are sick of the negativity and anger towards the Bush administration, but it's a farcical moment like this, a moment that resembles North Korean politics more than anything else, that makes the rest of us want to pull our hair out.



Bush Says He'll Find Out What Went Wrong
Sep 06 11:49 AM US/Eastern


By WILL LESTER
Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON


Buffeted by criticism over the federal response to Hurricane Katrina, President Bush said Tuesday he will oversee an investigation into what went wrong and why _ in part to be sure the country could withstand more storms or attack.

Bush also announced he is sending Vice President Dick Cheney to the Gulf Coast region on Thursday to help determine whether the government is doing all that it can.

"Bureaucracy is not going to stand in the way of getting the job done for the people," the president said after a meeting at the White House with his Cabinet on storm recovery efforts.

"What I intend to do is lead an investigation to find out what went right and what went wrong," Bush said. "We still live in an unsettled world. We want to make sure we can respond properly if there is a WMD (weapons of mass destruction) attack or another major storm."

But Bush said now is not the time to point fingers and he did not respond to calls for a commission to investigate the response.

"One of the things people want us to do here is play the blame game," he said. "We got to solve problems. There will be ample time to figure out what went right and what went wrong."

Bush was devoting most of his day to the recovery effort. After the Cabinet meeting, he was gathering with the congressional leaders, representatives of charitable organizations and with Education Secretary Margaret Spellings to talk about assistance for displaced students and closed schools.

McClellan said the president also was increasing what he described as a sizable personal contribution to the Red Cross and also was sending money to the Salvation Army.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., had told reporters Monday that the Homeland Security Committee would convene hearings as Congress returns this week to examine the "weaknesses and strengths" of the federal response and to "apply the lessons learned."

There has been heavy criticism of the government's response to the hurricane, and city and state officials, Republicans and Democrats have assailed the Federal Emergency Management Agency led by Michael Brown. Bush, during an inspection tour of the devastated region last Friday, praised Brown, telling him, "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job."

Bush did not respond directly when asked if anyone on his disaster response team should be replaced.

The president said that he and his Cabinet members were focused on planning in several areas of immediate need _ restoring basic services to affected areas, draining the water from New Orleans, removing debris, assessing public health and safety threats and housing for those displaced by the storm. "Most importantly," Bush said, officials are trying to figure out how to get Social Security checks to people now scattered across the country in private homes, churches and other shelters.

"This administration is not going to rest until every life is saved, until every family is reconnected, until the recovery is complete," he said.

Earlier, White House spokesman Scott McClellan rejected suggestions that the poor, and particularly blacks, had been abandoned when New Orleans was evacuated.

"I think most Americans dismiss that and know that there's just no basis for making such suggestions," McClellan said. "We are focused on saving and sustaining lives of all those who have been affected."

Bush returned to the Gulf Coast on Monday, visiting Baton Rouge and Poplarville, Miss., on his third inspection tour, the second by ground.

During a stop at Bethany World Prayer Center, several people ran up to meet Bush and first lady Laura Bush. But many hung back and looked on.

"I need answers," said Mildred Brown, who has been at the center since Tuesday with her husband, mother-in-law and cousin. "I'm not interested in handshaking. I'm not interested in photo ops."

State as well as federal officials are facing public criticism for a slow response to the crisis. Behind the scenes, each suggests the other is to blame. But Bush would not repeat top federal officials' criticism of the early communication from the region.

The tension was evident when the president and the Louisiana governor appeared together in Baton Rouge on Monday.

The governor, Kathleen Blanco, had to cancel a planned trip to Houston to visit evacuees after learning at the last minute that Bush planned a visit to Baton Rouge. She has turned to a Clinton administration official, former Federal Emergency Management Agency chief James Lee Witt, to help run relief efforts.

After addressing relief workers Monday, the president seemed to choke up, nodded at Blanco and kissed her on the cheek. She nodded back and both left the podium.

Blanco later played down reports of differences with Bush. "We'd like to stop the voices out there trying to create a divide," she said. "We're all in this together."

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Presumably, Bush isn't initiating an investigation into himself, but rather FEMA and the Department of Homeland Security.
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If not Bush, who should do the investigation? Independent counsel? A grand jury?

If something went wrong with a corporation, the CEO would be responsible for finding out what went wrong, or how it could be improved.

I guess I don't see the connection with Korea.
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An "Investigation". Right. Like the investigation that lasted baely a month after Abu Gharib and then was allowed to peter out after the media questions went away when the pics fizzled.

A comission would find out the hard facts. An investigation does not merit the subpenoa of documents. Documents, not phot ops, is what we need.

He's not playing politcs? The purpose of this week is to defuse the public's righteous anger, and deflect attention away from the Feds. Without the magic of TV, this would not possible. The people want hard answers and they want them NOW.

We are about to witness one of the most sickening displays in American politics.


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NB. the comission will be done by the same group of "independents" who did the Abu Gharib investigation. I think I'm going to be sick.

What I noticed last week was that for one brief shining moment, when the media was released from its multinational corporate blinkers--when the journos were free to go into the street and bring back those hard-hitting images and the talking heads were in their studios and not "embedded" with miltary personnel (like Ted Koppel is suddenly this week)--there were hard questions being asked and issues raised that never are discussed on TV. Then, when the pics go away and the talking heads don't keep on the pressure and continue to ask thpose questions, the public's anger goes away and the pressure on the Feds is gone. This happened after 9/11. This happened after Abu Gharib. In fact, Bush's language after Abu Gharib was remarkabley similar.

We're not hearning any more aobut Micheal Chernoff and his horse shows. Bush prmised an "investigation" into 9/11 but it never happened. Not until 2 yrs later, after the victims families forced the issue to the table. By then, Bush and his cronies had had time to classify and/or destroy the relevant documents and have contrl of who sat on the panel.

If there was a comission now, it would force their hand. If it was put off, the Bushies would have had time to legally cover their asses. There's a LOT of info that needs to be covered up. Like Bush would have to destroy of classify documents that show one-third of the Louisiana National Guard was in Iraq and half the miltary equipment. As Commander in Chief, he has control over who gets sent to Iraq and who stays home. If this were able to be legally proved, if there was a comission next week, this would come up, and this by itself would be criminal grounds for impeachment. A case where his desicions had a direct destruction of American lives.
we know that right now. But without the documents to prove it, there would be no LEGAL way this could be linked with Iraq.

That's what this all about--givng them the time to cover their asses-- and they are right, it IS a "war." But in the long run, the name of Bush will be poison to the party. He may be able to escape this one, but he will be severely weakened.

But even if he escapes in the short term, he is still going to have to deal with the economic aftermarth. And Iraq--I understand Queda has taken over a whole town in Iraw yesterday, and insurgents raided the Interior Minsitry building. if he gets off the hook now, Iraq will catch up with him.
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Bush's handling of the situation is what needs to be investigated.

an independent counsel, like the HRC-bomb's calls for an investigation into Katrina akin to that of 9-11, is what is needed here.

determining who is ultimately accountable should not be done by the person who is ultimately accountable (hence, the North Korean analogy), the one who gutted FEMA for Homeland Security, the one who appointed the head of FEMA who then appointed college buddy and former roommate and incompetant manager of Arabian Horses Michael "heckuva job" Brown.
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I'm sure it will be "fair" like FOX News is "fair and balanced."

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This is typical thinking for the "buck doesn't stop here" president.
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If something went wrong with a corporation, the CEO would be responsible for finding out what went wrong, or how it could be improved.

W's friend Kenny-boy, could not agree with you more.

(That is Kenneth Lay of Ennon, who gutted, raped and plundered more people's lives, than all the looters of New Orleans combined.
No zero tolerance for him, still a free man)
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determining who is ultimately accountable should not be done by the person who is ultimately accountable (hence, the North Korean analogy), the one who gutted FEMA for Homeland Security, the one who appointed the head of FEMA who then appointed college buddy and former roommate and incompetant manager of Arabian Horses Michael "heckuva job" Brown.
Is this a matter of agency mismanagement or political wrongdoing?

Unless there is some criminal wrongdoing or impeachable offense, then Bush is the appropriate person to head, or appoint other to conduct an investigation. Otherwise, under the principle that "the person ultimately accountable cannot investigate who is ultimately accountable," governement would need independent counsel on a daily basis.

Seems like we've got another Ready, Fire, Aim situation here.
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W's friend Kenny-boy, could not agree with you more.

(That is Kenneth Lay of Ennon, who gutted, raped and plundered more people's lives, than all the looters of New Orleans combined.
No zero tolerance for him, still a free man)
Are you suggesting criminal misconduct by GWB?
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If were able to be legally proved (like it is right now, Septemember 6 , 2005) that one-third of the Lousiana national Guard was in Iraq And half the military equipment (plnaes, copters, trucks etc) this is a DIRECT link between Iraq and this tragedy and would show the Commnader in Chief made a decision that may have direvctly led to the death of American lives. This would be a criminal act and grounds for impeachment. Those documents need to be classified or destroyed. Remember, even if every one knows it, it isn't an impeachable offense unless the documents are there for a court to read. No legal grounds for conviction.

I think I'm going to be REALLY sick.
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Is this a matter of agency mismanagement or political wrongdoing?

Unless there is some criminal wrongdoing or impeachable offense, then Bush is the appropriate person to head, or appoint other to conduct an investigation. Otherwise, under the principle that "the person ultimately accountable cannot investigate who is ultimately accountable," governement would need independent counsel on a daily basis.

Seems like we've got another Ready, Fire, Aim situation here.

perhaps the mismanagement was a result of political wrongdoing, case in point Michael "heckuva job" Brown.

in this situaiton, your second suggestion is most appropriate: Bush should appoint someone to conduct the investigation.
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"Bureaucracy is not going to stand in the way of getting the job done for the people,"
. . . anymore.



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"We want to make sure we can respond properly if there is a WMD (weapons of mass destruction) attack or another major storm."
So I guess the last four years has been a warm-up?

Also "if" there is another major storm? It's called Hurricane season. That means we usually get at least one every year.


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"This administration is not going to rest until every life is saved"
Again, a little late on this part . . .

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"I need answers," said Mildred Brown, who has been at the center since Tuesday with her husband, mother-in-law and cousin. "I'm not interested in handshaking. I'm not interested in photo ops."
Now Mildred, you heard the man. Now is not the time to figure out what went right and what went wrong.
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Might not be a bad idea to examine the entire current National Emergency Response Plan / Program to make sure it is adequate and if it is not adequate then make improvements to it.

I'm more concerned about the future than I am of the past.




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