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Old 09-15-2005, 09:37 PM   #76
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It was a very good speech


perhaps, the best one I have ever heard him give


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I agree. Excellent speech! I'll vote for his writers.
I have no doubt however, he meant it, at least some of it.
The results remain to be seen..
Sorry I'm not converting yet.
one speech

does not get my vote

or change my opinion that

he is the worst president I can recall

but, to be fair

I call them as I see them

and the speech was damn good

the first 2/3s sounded like something Clinton might have said

when he started saying congress(gop) would investigate, well

I am sure glad they dropped the spin “we will investigate what went right, and what went wrong"
that was so Rovian pathetic.
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Good speech, what I heard of it. And I appreciate that he gave it in Jackson Square.

Jackson Square is probably my favorite place to spend an afternoon in NOLA. On one end, you have Jackson Brewery and The Mississippi Riverwalk park, and St. Louis Cathedral is on the other end. Along each side, you have some great restaurants and art galleries. On the sidewalk around the square, you can find street artists occasionally painting but always selling their original works. There's a great restaurant on the corner just across from St. Louis Cathedral; they have excellent gumbo, red beans & rice, and shrimp jambalaya, (all of which you can get together as a "sampler"), and, to wash it all down, cold Dixie Beer. When the city opens back up to tourism, please visit; those places and the people that work there will appreciate it. Buy a Lucky Dog from the cart and walk around the Square and check out the artists' work. You'll probably bring some home.

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though i will say that you are more thoughtful and articulate that the stereotype i have in my head of an SUV-driving conservative Alabaman.
Thanks; I'm glad I could break the stereotype.

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Good speech, what I heard of it. And I appreciate that he gave it in Jackson Square.

Jackson Square is probably my favorite place to spend an afternoon in NOLA. On one end, you have Jackson Brewery and The Mississippi Riverwalk park, and St. Louis Cathedral is on the other end. Along each side, you have some great restaurants and art galleries. On the sidewalk around the square, you can find street artists occasionally painting but always selling their original works. There's a great restaurant on the corner just across from St. Louis Cathedral; they have excellent gumbo, red beans & rice, and shrimp jambalaya, (all of which you can get together as a "sampler"), and, to wash it all down, cold Dixie Beer. When the city opens back up to tourism, please visit; those places and the people that work there will appreciate it. Buy a Lucky Dog from the cart and walk around the Square and check out the artists' work. You'll probably bring some home.

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Wow, the memories. I've not been to Jackson Square in years but I have pic's. I hope all is not lost.
and I will go there again.
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Sorry. He should have given this speech two Fridays ago. It's not the speech of a man who has repented for his mistakes (yes, there were local mistakes, but they're not the only ones) but the desperation of a politican whose poll numbers have sunk below 40 and is growing increasingly desperate that he can't weasel his way out of this one, and is thinking about next year's Congressional elections. When I think of the emotion in the speech, all I can think of was the hearing aid he had in the first debate last year where Karl Rove was hissing instructions into his ear. "You look good there, Sir. Just tilt your head to the right a little. Now, put some EMOTION into it." He showed his TRUE colors on that infamous Friday, for all time. That was him. It's THOSE moments when we nend aleader, even if he had to fake it. When the emergency is hot. Instead, it was, "Brownie, you;re doing a heck of a job." "And Trent Lott's house.

When we are unguarded, and the words are unscripted...THAT is who we are.

How many times did he have to rehearse that Reganesque catch in his voice? He might only NOW be feeling SOME empathy, but it is just 2 weeks too F*$(% g late.

Sorry, this time this is not the speech of a non-Bush fan. If this had happened 10 yrs ago, and Clinton had been in power and had bungled the response, I might very well have decided never to vote in a Presidential election again.

I am sorry, but all the damage control and the desire to "make things right" won't ever wipe those pictures out of my head, or bring back the dead, or restore my belief that there isn't real mind-bending HATE for the poor and oppressed in this country. We don't even know what it is we've lost, in all the sugar-coated hype about what we have supposedly gained. Any desire for "repentance" or to "make things right" from now on, just smacks of politcs. "They're not saying any good things here, let's leave." That, accoridng to the conservative Washington Post, was what Bush said that Friday, even as people died yards away. That, for me, will be what it is all about.

For me, it's not even about politics anymore. There is a core of bitterness that won't go away, and it's deeper than any kind of intellectual hate. True, the bitterness is spread out for me--it;s not just the Federal crowd who is guilty. But those are not excuses to make in a time of NATIONAL crisis. So for me, whoever sits in the White House, regardless of party, in times like these should be held most to scrutiny, and should LEAD--if only be speaking at the right time. Now, it's all politcs.

PS Sorry if I repeated myself. But I'm just so damned bitter. The sugar-coated happy stories of heroism (Like the one I;m aobut to post) don't cut it anymore....
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Well, here's the story....

Get out a hankie, and like the writer says, call Oprah.

Wonderful story, and I've sent it loads of people. I just hope that when Hollywood comes calling, they also won't forget the "teenage girls delivering fetuses on buses" and old handicapped women dying in piles of their own shit.

The Story Of Steve

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If you want to know the reason behind the speech

here's a big clue...

He's put Karl Rove in charge of the reconstruction.

Now, Rove is a political agent, his sole purpose is to make Bush and the GOP look good, he's done this throughout the years through a system of patronage, media manipulation and lies. His purpose during the reconstruction will be to get the GOP as many votes as possible in the 2006 election.

What exactly qualifies Karl Rove to be in charge of the reconstruction effort???
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Thanks; I'm glad I could break the stereotype.

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well, i put no stock in any sort of stereotypes, mine or others, so i know they're like world records in track or swimming -- made to be broken.
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Two refugees had nothing but profanities to utter after President Bush's speech from New Orleans. A casino dealer said Congress was to blame for the slow response to the hurricane, not the president.

Americans watched Bush's speech Thursday with mixed expectations. Some were glad the president acknowledged again the government's failure in its initial response to Hurricane Katrina; others were angry, saying the speech was too little, too late.
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others were angry, saying the speech was too little, too late.
Kinda how I feel. I mean, he's saying all the right things but it's just politics. He's one of the most insincere people I've ever seen. He'll just say whatever he has to say. He has zero credibility with me and his words are empty.
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did anyone else think it looked like that horse was kicking him in the head the whole time?
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Kinda how I feel. I mean, he's saying all the right things but it's just politics. He's one of the most insincere people I've ever seen. He'll just say whatever he has to say. He has zero credibility with me and his words are empty.
4 some people, no matter WHAT or WHEN he did something, it wouldn't b enough, because they don't like him. And I have 2 disagree here, he may not b the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I think his sincerity , which is one of the things that gets him in so much hot water, is genuine.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050916/...E0BHNlYwN0bWE-

President Bush said Friday that the Gulf Coast must be rebuilt with an eye toward wiping out the persistent poverty and racial injustice plain to all in the suffering of the black and the poor in Hurricane Katrina's wake.

"As we clear away the debris of a hurricane, let us also clear away the legacy of inequality," Bush said during a national prayer service with other political leaders and religious figures from the affected region at the National Cathedral."..................

Before Bush's remarks, Bishop T.D. Jakes, head of 30,000-member Potter's House church in Dallas, delivered a powerful sermon in which he called upon Americans to "dare to discuss the unmentionable issues that confront us" and to not rest until the poor are raised to an acceptable living standard.

"Katrina, perhaps, she has done something to this nation that needed to be done," Jakes said. "We can no longer be a nation that overlooks the poor and the suffering, that continues past the ghetto on our way to the Mardi Gras."
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If you want to know the reason behind the speech

here's a big clue...

He's put Karl Rove in charge of the reconstruction.

Now, Rove is a political agent, his sole purpose is to make Bush and the GOP look good, he's done this throughout the years through a system of patronage, media manipulation and lies. His purpose during the reconstruction will be to get the GOP as many votes as possible in the 2006 election.

What exactly qualifies Karl Rove to be in charge of the reconstruction effort???

i thought you were making this up

or just joking


then, I find this


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Republicans said Karl Rove, the White House deputy chief of staff and Mr. Bush's chief political adviser, was in charge of the reconstruction effort, which reaches across many agencies of government and includes the direct involvement of Alphonso R. Jackson, secretary of housing and urban development.

As good as I believe the speech was

and as much as I wanted to be impressed with a new insightfulness and direction


choosing Rove makes him not only the worst president, but the stupidest
and I have tried to stay away from that judgement
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