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Old 09-13-2005, 06:24 PM   #31
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Well done, W.... now the interesting thing will b what is done NOW....
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I think we will find more money will be invested into New Orleans that ever imagined.
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I just read the nursing Home story in full.
What the hell?!
they should be put in jail.
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I just read the nursing Home story in full.
What the hell?!
they should be put in jail.
Keep reading. They are in jail.
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Old 09-13-2005, 08:24 PM   #35
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Re: Bush takes blame for flaws in Katrina response

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"To the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," Bush said.
A true leader takes responsibility for what is under his jurisdiction. While there are 3 parts to our government, I think it is more than expected for the president of our country to step up and take responsibility for what happens in HIS country.

So, good job, Mr. Bush.


But I get a sort of odd feeling that he was more ...... reading it off a cue card than meaning it. It's kind of late, as others have mentioned.

better late then never.


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finally he said something

I for one don't want to hold only one person responsible, but the buck stops in Washington DC not in Louisiana, Mississippi, or Alabama.

And I also want President Bush to give serious thought as to why African Americans feel the way they do about him. Introspection is healthy. And to think about what he as President and we as a country can do to make life for the poor and minorities better.
Yes, I aggree, MrsSpringsteen
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Old 09-13-2005, 08:40 PM   #36
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I did see that the nursing home owners were in jail.

I should have said:
They SHOULD be in jail.
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it does seem as if even Mr. Bush disagrees with several FYMers about where blame belongs.
I would observe that most of the "several FYMers" you are likely referring to have applied the blame to multiple levels. That has been my intent all along. I think all Dreadsox ever intended regarding the school buses was that the city/state should have utilized them prior to Katrina's landfall. How's this: pre-landfall/preparation action leading up to landfall: the buck stops with local and state governments; post-landfall and levee breach aftermath, rescue and recovery, the buck stops with the federal government. Fair enough?

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I would observe that most of the "several FYMers" you are likely referring to have applied the blame to multiple levels. That has been my intent all along. I think all Dreadsox ever intended regarding the school buses was that the city/state should have utilized them prior to Katrina's landfall. How's this: pre-landfall/preparation action leading up to landfall: the buck stops with local and state governments; post-landfall and levee breach aftermath, rescue and recovery, the buck stops with the federal government. Fair enough?

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Old 09-13-2005, 10:48 PM   #39
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Ultimately the buck stops with W.
You want to rul the country you have to take the blame too. [...] I don't stand around saying how nice the Emperor's new robe is just becuase he is my leader. Heads should roll on all sides but the majority of the blame is SQUARELY on George's shoulders.
He put a guy with ZERO experience in charge of FEMA.
If you put a guy with no experience in charge of your business no matter what it is that you do whether it is working at a 7-11 or running a Fortune 500 business and he screwed up.
You'd be fired.
Well said.
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As for the female governor remark...you are just making up supposed issues now.
Not every liberal is going to jump up with their hippie flag and stop eating their bran flakes, call the ACLU and freak out in the middle of a storm.
But then you guys are good at stereotyping.
Just ask the Katrina victims.
Horse shit.....

It is not a supposed issue....

And I do not appreciate the you guys and the stereotyping....Nor do I appreciate the Ask the Katrina victims comment. I have busted my ass to raise money for the victims, so take your stereotyping of me and stick it where the sun don't shine.

It is an issue....

There have been times when the National Guard was federalized without the Governors permission in our history.

This President did not do it, when clearly he was asking for permission.
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I did see that the nursing home owners were in jail.

I should have said:
They SHOULD be in jail.
Hmmm...

I wonder if the governor and the mayor realized that it was the LAW of their state that they were supposed to evacuate the people in the nursing homes and hospitals.
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:21 PM   #42
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The response to this hurricane was a gigantic cluster**** on the part of every level of government from W on down, so by no means do I place all the blame on his shoulders. BUT - let me say that this 'apology' from him is nauseating. The only reason, the ONLY reason he made this statement is because of his plummeting poll numbers. There is nothing sincere about this apology. W is only doing what his handlers feel he has to do to get the numbers back up and to keep from losing ground in next year's congressional elections.
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100% agreed: you said it, pal.

Sorry, folks, I know it isn't very constructive to post this... but I thought it gives a pretty accurate summary.
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Old 09-14-2005, 01:03 AM   #44
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I want to agree with those who say that there are multiple levels at fault in this disaster. My main disappointment is probably with all the bureaucracy that prevented $14 billion in restoring Louisiana's wetlands. Maybe it would have been too little, too late, but it's kind of disheartening when the Bush Administration, as late as the beginning of August, was quite contented in underfunding the project. In fact, I think he gave the Taliban more money in April 2001 than he slated to gave the state of Louisiana for 2005.

But I guess for all the bitching over spending $14 billion dollars, we can now feel free to spend upwards of $200 to $300 billion to fix all this. And you know what's most disheartening? We never learn, and, frankly, I doubt we ever will.

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Old 09-14-2005, 01:48 AM   #45
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i dunno leaders on the ground ..next to the levees shoulda had a better read..like when to tell their ppl..

"Yo it's time to get the f--- out and we have to get out now!"

Instead of pointing fingers at Washington while ppl drowned.

GW shoulda came out quicker and symphathised w/the people as well.


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