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Old 09-13-2005, 03:16 PM   #16
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Bush as President should take responsibility for problems within the executive branch, BUT the failure in this case falls on the weeping shoulders of the governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans. I can back my argument up with facts. This is just the latest attempt by Liberals and the media to try and bring down a Republican president they hate. They are doing the same thing the Republicans did when Clinton was in office. Check the facts.


yes. the facts are that Bush appointed an inept man as head of FEMA and it was this man's inability to make decisions and coordiante, combined with Bush's total ignorance of the situation on the ground, as well as failures at the state and local level, that combined in another sort of perfect storm of government failure. there is blame to spread all around, but for anyone to think for even a moment that the problem lies solely with the governor and mayor is utterly delusional. there are more than enough facts to go around without resorting to the "liberals" and "the media" Coulterisms.

even Bush thinks so.

for him to admit error for the first time in over four years -- yes, this is the first time ever -- then you know things are bad, especially on the PR front.

i applaud the president for owning up to his myriad mistakes.

now, let's see him do the same for WMD's, Iraq, and especially the torture in Abu Ghraib and across the globe.
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:10 PM   #17
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Yes Irvine511, Bush has finally admitted to this ,but will he ever admit about the Iraq?
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:13 PM   #18
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I am glad he is taking responsibility.

As for "those FYMers".....I still stand by my position.....that there be accountability at all levels.

Sadly, "some FYMers" only seem to want to hold one person responsibile.
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:24 PM   #19
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He wouldn't have taken responsibility if he was able to run again in 2008...
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:25 PM   #20
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And this is what I want an apology for....

I want an apology for him NOT having the intestinal fortitude to seize control of the National Guard and take over.

PERIOD.

He would have been cruicified for doing it because he would have been stepping on the toes of a female democratic governor.

But he should have. Period. PC and politics be damned.
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finally he said something

I for one don't want to hold only one person responsible, but the buck stops in Washington DC not in Louisiana, Mississippi, or Alabama.

And I also want President Bush to give serious thought as to why African Americans feel the way they do about him. Introspection is healthy. And to think about what he as President and we as a country can do to make life for the poor and minorities better.
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i also want us to have a serious discussion about poverty.

4.1 million more people have slipped below the poverty line since 2001.
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Trust me, there are Democrats to blame as well.
Ultimately the buck stops with W.
You want to rul the country you have to take the blame too.
The difference between Dems and Republicans is we are willing to hold our own accountable when they screw up.
I don't stand around saying how nice the Emperor's new robe is just becuase he is my leader.
Heads should roll on all sides but the majority of the blame is SQUARELY on George's shoulders.
He put a guy with ZERO experience in charge of FEMA.
If you put a guy with no experience in charge of your business no matter what it is that you do whether it is working at a 7-11 or running a Fortune 500 business and he screwed up.
You'd be fired.
Mike Brown ran horse shows.
Thats straight out of a Saturday Night Live skit.
People died because of that.
Every second counted.
Hundereds maybe thousands of lives could have been saved.
Let that sink in before you start spouting Karl Rove talking points.
Think about the people in the hospital they found yesterday.
That could be your grandmother.
They could have been saved but instead they are dead because Mike Brown had a friend.
If that doesn't disgust you then you are too far gone for me to talk sense into you.
If Clinton did that, then
A: The Republicans would have eaten him alive
B: I would have joined them!
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excellent post Iskra

the blame also rests w/ "people" like the couple who ran that St Rita's nursing home and left patients to die in their beds

there are no words
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As for the female governor remark...you are just making up supposed issues now.
Not every liberal is going to jump up with their hippie flag and stop eating their bran flakes, call the ACLU and freak out in the middle of a storm.
But then you guys are good at stereotyping.
Just ask the Katrina victims.
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I can't say I can blame people fleeing for their lives without hearing that in more detail.
My guess is they called for help-received none and had to make a horrible decision.
If I was a nurse and my kid was at home and help wasn't coming to my workplace...wow.
Thats tough.
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The hyperbole in here is laughable at times.

This place was far more interesting before the 2004 election.
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Well I think the pro-Bush hyperbole is laughable at times too, that's only fair is it not?

I have tried numerous times to start threads that have absolutely zero to do w/ politics and/or Bush, only to have all that dragged into them anyway, or no one cares about the thread
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I'd agree that almost any thread can get turned into the usual slug fest, or jump to the one-way discussion topics.

You've slugged it out in FYM over quite a period of time, MrsSpringsteen, without losing your cool.
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Trust me, I lose my cool in little voices in my head... something like that
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