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Old 05-23-2007, 11:12 AM   #31
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When the fuck are all you pro-war kids joining up to "finish the job"?
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:13 AM   #32
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The only ways to win this war involve increasing the number of troops.
No it is certainly not the only way to resolve this conflict.

And my point which I was making earlier, is that everyone who thinks we need more troops, or who politically supports this absurd war, should go to the nearest recruiter and sign up. My friends who have been to Iraq, or are on their way, agree that this is a mess we've gotten ourselves into. Yet there are plenty people who disagree who haven't set foot there. You want more troops? Add your name. This isn't just about numbers. These are real lives.


ETA: as usual, in what takes me 3 minutes to write, martha sums up much better in a one-liner that emcompasses everything.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:26 AM   #34
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When the fuck are all you pro-war kids joining up to "finish the job"?
I'm kind of tired of answering this. We dont have a draft. I dont have to join the military if I dont want to, and I dont want to. Obvioulsy, the kids overseas feel differently, and DO want to fight.

If you want to play that game, why dont you take the next plane to Africa, give every cent you have to the people living there, and invite as many as you can to come back to America and live in your house with you?

You can support a cause in a number of different ways, martha.
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I'm kind of tired of answering this. We dont have a draft. I dont have to join the military if I dont want to, and I dont want to. Obvioulsy, the kids overseas feel differently, and DO want to fight.

I'm curious to know how many soldiers over there still want to fight after completing year long tours and then get shipped right back over there. Or how many National Guardsmen signed up thinking that they would be over fighting a war rather than giving their weekend a month and supporting the country on the domestic front.

What exactly are you doing to support the troops? Are you organizing any sort of clothing drive or book drive?

You may not want to fight, but you have no problems sending other people over to fight - which is complete bullshit. You play the role of an armchair quarterback while they dodge IEDs. It's the better you than me attitude or you signed up for it attitude which says so much about the war and this country right now.
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I'm curious to know how many soldiers over there still want to fight after completing year long tours and then get shipped right back over there. Or how many National Guardsmen signed up thinking that they would be over fighting a war rather than giving their weekend a month and supporting the country on the domestic front.

What exactly are you doing to support the troops? Are you organizing any sort of clothing drive or book drive?

You may not want to fight, but you have no problems sending other people over to fight - which is complete bullshit. You play the role of an armchair quarterback while they dodge IEDs. It's the better you than me attitude or you signed up for it attitude which says so much about the war and this country right now.
Come on, you know just as well as I do that I am not "sending other people over to fight." I'm pretty sure I have not done that. And you're in no position to say what kind of "attitude" I have.

The brave kids that signed up probably did not foresee the current situation, but THEY JOINED THE MILITARY. I would believe that anyone who signs up to go to war knows that there is a possibility of death.
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2861U2, it's obvious your knowledge on the war is lacking, but it's also becoming apparent that your logic is failing as well.

"You may not want to fight, but you have no problems sending other people over to fight"

What part of that line didn't make sense to you? You're pushing for more troops in a dead end war, tell me why exactly you are willing to join, you're the perfect age?
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:04 PM   #38
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No, my knowledge of the war is fine. I guess I'm the only one who sees the consequences of us simply leaving Iraq. I guess I'm the only one who understands that leaving Iraq will not make the terrorist problem go away.
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No, my knowledge of the war is fine.
No, given your satellite comment your knowledge is grossly flawed. GROSSLY...

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I guess I'm the only one who sees the consequences of us simply leaving Iraq. I guess I'm the only one who understands that leaving Iraq will not make the terrorist problem go away.
That's not what we're talking about here, you are talking about surging more troops, something that many even in the military think is a huge mistake. And I haven't seen any evidence or solution that says Iraq will make a terrorist problem go away.
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The brave kids that signed up probably did not foresee the current situation, but THEY JOINED THE MILITARY. I would believe that anyone who signs up to go to war knows that there is a possibility of death.
And you've managed to contradict yourself. You just said they couldn't forsee the current situation, then you say they signed up to go to war? I don't know a single person in the military who signed up "to go to war." Like I said before, my friends certainly do not agree with the way this war is being managed, but yet are being sent back, or having their tours extended because people like you want to keep them there, yet refuse to go themselves.

I'm curious, if you don't mind sharing. What is holding you back from contributing to this surge that you believe in so much?
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I guess I'm the only one who understands that leaving Iraq will not make the terrorist problem go away.
Staying in Iraq will not make the terrorist problem go away. Remember the terrorist attack from September 11? Was that done by Iraquis? No???
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Hilarious. The liberals bitch that the low troops numbers are an explanation as to why the job isn't getting done in Iraq and then bitch when the levels are going to increase.

JUST BE HONEST!!

Say what you really mean... You could give a shit less about the people of Iraq or anywhere else as long as your ideology wins. You'll support anything anti conservative or anti American as long as it proves you "right"; and that includes terrorism and/or dictatorships.

Or, you feel that Iraqi's are just too savage for democracy to ever work.

Stop bitching and just be honest, if not with the public, at least with yourselves. You're a disgrace; all of you. Grow the fuck up.
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Hilarious. The liberals bitch that the low troops numbers are an explanation as to why the job isn't getting done in Iraq and then bitch when the levels are going to increase.

JUST BE HONEST!!

Say what you really mean... You could give a shit less about the people of Iraq or anywhere else as long as your ideology wins. You'll support anything anti conservative or anti American as long as it proves you "right"; and that includes terrorism and/or dictatorships.

Or, you feel that Iraqi's are just too savage for democracy to ever work.

Stop bitching and just be honest, if not with the public, at least with yourselves. You're a disgrace; all of you. Grow the fuck up.
Excuse me, but I know someone whose only son was just killed in Iraq last week. For some of us, it has nothing to do with being right about an ideology, or about being anti-conservative. You really have no idea what you're talking about.


Andrew J. Bacevich, 27, of Walpole, Mass., was killed in Iraq.
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Remember the terrorist attack from September 11? Was that done by Iraquis? No???
No, September 11th was not committed by Iraq, you are exactly right. Al-Qaeda attacked us, and Al-Qaeda, along with having haven in Afghanistan, also operates in Iraq. Remember when President Bush addressed the nation on 9/11? He said we will make no distinction between those who committed these acts and those who harbor them. Iraq harbors and generates terrorists.

I would ask YOU to remember September 11th. Remember how you felt? I am hoping that you would be wanting our military to do everything it possibly can to make sure that doesnt happen again- not just saying "oh well, we cant win, everyone come home and lets await another attack."
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Hilarious. The liberals bitch that the low troops numbers are an explanation as to why the job isn't getting done in Iraq and then bitch when the levels are going to increase.

JUST BE HONEST!!

Say what you really mean... You could give a shit less about the people of Iraq or anywhere else as long as your ideology wins. You'll support anything anti conservative or anti American as long as it proves you "right"; and that includes terrorism and/or dictatorships.

Or, you feel that Iraqi's are just too savage for democracy to ever work.

Stop bitching and just be honest, if not with the public, at least with yourselves. You're a disgrace; all of you. Grow the fuck up.
Never once heard a liberal bitch about low troop count, just improper execution and not supplying the troops with the right equipment.

As for the rest of your post, it's useless and not worth responding to. You may want to try and stick to the facts someday.
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