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Old 10-04-2005, 11:55 AM   #46
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Don't misunderestimate Miers

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President Bush is a politician trained in strategic thinking at Harvard Business School, and schooled in tactics by experience and advice, including the experience and advice of his father, whose most lasting political mistake was the nomination of David Souter. The nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court shows that he has learned his lessons well. Regrettably, a large contingent of conservative commentators does not yet grasp the strategy and tactics at work in this excellent nomination.

There is a doom-and-gloom element on the Right which is just waiting to be betrayed, convinced that their hardy band of true believers will lose by treachery those victories to which justice entitles them. They are stuck in the decades-long tragic phase of conservative politics, when country club Republicans inevitably sold out the faith in order to gain acceptability in the Beltway media and social circuit. Many on the right already are upset with the President already over his deficit spending, and his continued attempts to elevate the tone of politics in Washington in the face of ongoing verbal abuse by Democrats and their media allies. They misinterpret his missing verbal combativeness as weakness.

There is also a palpable hunger for a struggle to the death with hated and verbally facile liberals like Senator Chuck Schumer. Having seen that a brilliant conservative legal thinker with impeccable elite credentials can humble the most officious voices of the Judiciary Committee, they demand a replay. Thus we hear conservatives sniffing that a Southern Methodist University legal education is just too non-Ivy League, adopting a characteristic trope of blue state elitists. We hear conservatives bemoaning a lack of judicial experience, and not a single law review article in the last decade as evidence of a second rate mind.
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so what's the strategy? she's a Trojan Horse for the Scalia/Thomas school of thought?

she's still a crony.

(i also can't open the link).
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http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...112940,00.html

An indication of her stance on gay rights comes from this questionaire from the Lesbian/Gay Political Coalition of Dallas Miers filled out while running for the Dallas City Council in 1989. In it, she supported full civil rights for gays and lesbians and backed AIDS education programs for the city of Dallas

I wonder if she has "changed her mind" since then.. I didn't read the PDF so I don't know how extensive it is, I doubt it says anything about gay marriage

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005...aire-from.html

"There are few interesting things about this questionnaire:

1. The questionnaire is from the Lesbian/Gay Political Coalition of Dallas.

2. Miers seems supportive of increased AIDS funding, which isn't a small deal in 1989, especially in a more conservative place with Texas.

3. Miers says she believes gays should have the same civil rights as straights. Again, perhaps no big shocker today, but this was 1989 in Texas.

4. At the end of the questionnaire, Miers says she is NOT seeking the endorsement of the gay rights group.

5. But then why did Miers fill out their questionnaire in the first place? Would a true conservative family-values candidate fill out a candidate questionnaire from a gay rights group TODAY, let alone in 1989 and in Texas to boot?

I'm not sure this questionnaire provides any definitive answers about Harriet Miers and gay rights - many of her answers aren't great - but it sure raises a number of questions. And I wouldn't want to be the Bush administration right about now, trying to answer why their wonder candidate was sucking up to gay groups as early as the 1980s (not that there's anything wrong with that :-) "
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[BAnd I wouldn't want to be the Bush administration right about now, trying to answer why their wonder candidate was sucking up to gay groups as early as the 1980s (not that there's anything wrong with that :-) " [/B]


i'll repeat what i said in antoher thread: unmarried, 60 year old bachelorette.

you do the math.

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hey I'm a bachelorette, I'm not 60 but I'm not 25 either

that would be awesome if they had a lesbian Supreme Court justice
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you misunderstand.
No, I think you missed me trying to be funny. Oh well.

SO would it be croni-ism if he nominated Gonzales?
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No, I think you missed me trying to be funny. Oh well.

SO would it be croni-ism if he nominated Gonzales?


sorry -- there's no "tone" in this forum, so often humor misses (as well i know).

yes, Gonzales would have been cronyism as well. perhaps he is, on paper, slightly more qualified? am not sure ... but i do think this was a case of Bush being a bit bratty; i think he wanted Gonzales, but no one would let him choose anyone other than a woman, so he went with AG's female counterpart (in closeness to the president, not necessarily in ideology).
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hey I'm a bachelorette, I'm not 60 but I'm not 25 either

that would be awesome if they had a lesbian Supreme Court justice


i'm just fooling around. really, who knows and who really cares?

i mean, there are people who would care if a lesbian were on the court, but care for the wrong reasons.

i am not saying she's a lesbian.

i am saying that it is a possibility.
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I think cronyism is the red herring of this nomination.
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I think cronyism is the red herring of this nomination.


for what other reason was she picked?

she seems like a fine lawyer, but again and again, the only thing that distinguishes her from a long list of highly qualified women was her close, loyal relationship to the president.

though the fact that James Dobson seems rather pleased, and was quoted in the NYT today as saying "Some of what I know I am not at liberty to talk about" (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/04/po...04conserv.html)

could you explain more?
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i'll repeat what i said in antoher thread: unmarried, 60 year old bachelorette.

you do the math.

we won't add to the rumors

that she was caught in a small room (for coats with hangers) with a cabinet member (whose name could be a substitute for the side dish, potatoes)
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Do you think at some time she'll refer to the President as her husband?
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Do you think at some time she'll refer to the President as her husband?


well, he *is* the most brilliant man she's ever met.

(just how many men does she know?)
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we won't add to the rumors

that she was caught in a small room (for coats with hangers) with a cabinet member (whose name could be a substitute for the side dish, potatoes)
Condoleezza mixed-vegetables?
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