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Old 09-13-2005, 04:02 PM   #46
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I doubt I'll approve of Bush's nominations any more than you do, but don't forget that Clinton appointed two Justices, as did the first President Bush. It's not as though Bush has been handed a golden opportunity to pack the court with conservatives any more than Clinton had a chance to pack the court with progressives.
I'm drawing a blank .

Who was the other Clinton appointee besides Ginsberg?
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"Hysterical fanatic" is just how I would describe Scalia, Thomas and Bork....

Nope, probably something like "hard-line, right-wing, misogynist, homophobic ideologues" would be more accurate.
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I'm drawing a blank .

Who was the other Clinton appointee besides Ginsberg?
Stephen Breyer.
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Stephen Breyer.
Wow, I don't remember him at all .


Must have been when I was in college .
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Nope, probably something like "hard-line, right-wing, misogynist, homophobic ideologues" would be more accurate.
Tad judgmental, even for FYM????
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Tad judgmental, even for FYM????
I'm sure Scalia would wear it as a badge of honor.

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Tad judgmental, even for FYM????


come on, Scalia doesn't strike you as such?

Pat Robertson totally hearts Scalia.
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It was amazing seeing the difference between a Rep. interviewer and a Dem. The Dem. was 30 minutes of butting heads and Roberts evading questions....I think he is evading so much it could really hurt him.....

Rep. wasn't even 30 min. of questions; more like 30 min. of praise.

It seems like everyone is just going to vote along party lines....though Ginsberg is so liberal and as someone pointed out, she got 96 votes so it's possible to sway some from the other side.

At any rate, I do like him as a person and he is extremely smart. Brilliant is more like it.
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i think this is absolutely correct.

on this line of thought, check out _What's the Matter With Kansas_. the essential point is this: those who are most concerned with "moral" issues tend to be the devout working classes of the midwest and the south; they've been voting republican since the 80s or so with the promise that those who they elect will deliver on these moral issues, yet, all they have to show for it are tax breaks for the rich, service industry jobs, and dwindling public services that would benefit them the most.
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right. like the guy who helped us move, who has 10 children and proudly tells us he's voting for George W. Bush. my mom's parents live in rural TN and say they see this all the time...poor people voting against their own self-interests, but doing so because they sincerely believe in the values touted by conservative politicians.
So, so true. I've had this exact conversation several times after the last couple of presidential elections with some older, working class, conservative friends who are jubilant that 'they' won. They just don't understand that they are actually the big losers with this administration in office.

On topic - Since it's inevitable that the Republicans will try to get as conservative a judge on the Court as possible, it may as well be Roberts. He seems to be truly brilliant and he's young enough that he may adapt to changes in society.
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Just watching parts of the confirmation hearings today, I have to say I really like the guy. You never know I suppose, but he doesn't strike me as a Thomas or Scalia type and he seems very intelligent and balanced to me. That was just the general feeling I got.
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Here's something interesting:

Tradesports.com, which is like a stock market that mostly deals with sporting events, but also covers some political events as well. It's essentially a mechanism for quantifying "conventional wisdom." Roberts' stock yesterday was trading very well on the question of whether he will be confirmed. With respect to the number of votes he will get, there are a lot of people thinking he will get over 70 votes. Earlier I noticed there had been an uptick in trading at the "over 90" votes level.
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I've got the hearings on again, and Roberts just made a very interesting comment about examining the likely "real-world impact" of Supreme Court decisions. The comment was made in the context of questions about affirmative action policies in the military, and Roberts seems to have agreed with O'Connor that real-world concerns can be factored into these decisions.

Again, this makes me think that Roberts has more of a pragmatic approach to law than some of the hard-line ideologues. The more I listen to the man in his own words, the more I think that, conservative or not, he could be a very good presence on the Supreme Court.
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I've got the hearings on again, and Roberts just made a very interesting comment about examining the likely "real-world impact" of Supreme Court decisions. The comment was made in the context of questions about affirmative action policies in the military, and Roberts seems to have agreed with O'Connor that real-world concerns can be factored into these decisions.

Again, this makes me think that Roberts has more of a pragmatic approach to law than some of the hard-line ideologues. The more I listen to the man in his own words, the more I think that, conservative or not, he could be a very good presence on the Supreme Court.


Pax: ever thought about law school?

bet you'd be good lawyer and one-day judge.
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