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Old 07-06-2007, 07:08 PM   #406
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You are unbelievable, struck. You've openly acknowledged that the Vice President of the United States has engaged in criminal activity, and with this commutation it is clear that the President is covering up criminal activity (would you really be so naive to think that Bush commuted Libby out of the kindness of his heart with not a thought to how that gets Cheney off the hook?), and you think it's odd that people are reacting strongly against it?

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Old 07-06-2007, 07:10 PM   #407
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You are unbelievable, struck. You've openly acknowledged that the Vice President of the United States has engaged in criminal activity, and with this commutation it is clear that the President is covering up criminal activity (would you really be so naive to think that Bush commuted Libby out of the kindness of his heart with not a thought to how that gets Cheney off the hook?), and you think it's odd that people are reacting strongly against it?

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No, people in this forum are. People are calling for impeachment over this? Come on. He commuted one of his co-workers. No, he was doing this for Cheney. But, the bigger question, which would should be the reason for impeachment, is whether he was directly involved with any of the case, which from the evidence that has been released, is no. He simply commuted the guy.
So impeachment won't work. He probably doesn't even know what exactly is going on.
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People have been calling for impeachment LONG before this...particularly inreaction to the warrentless wiretapping on US citizens.
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Lying and coverups aren't reason for impeachments.

Lying about blowjobs are...

Come on, get it straight...
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Lying and coverups aren't reason for impeachments.

Lying about blowjobs are...

Come on, get it straight...
a. Bush was not involved in the coverup, other than the commutal.

b. Clinton was in everyway involved with the BJ
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No, people in this forum are. People are calling for impeachment over this? Come on. He commuted one of his co-workers. No, he was doing this for Cheney. But, the bigger question, which would should be the reason for impeachment, is whether he was directly involved with any of the case, which from the evidence that has been released, is no. He simply commuted the guy.
So impeachment won't work. He probably doesn't even know what exactly is going on.
No. You are. Perhaps you don't realize that impeachment means putting him up on trial and questioning. As we've seen with your favorite word, Clinton, that doesn't always result in dismissal from office. We the people have a right to know the truth. These people need to be held accountable for their actions. They have considered themselves above the law for too long. It would be great to finally have them submit to some questions. Granted, I don't expect them to be completely honest of course, but at least we can finally put them in check.
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a. Bush was not involved in the coverup, other than the commutal.
The commutal is part of the cover up, wake up!!!

Did Bush tell you he wasn't part of it? Is that why you believe it?

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b. Clinton was in everyway involved with the BJ
Depends on your definition of 'involved' is...
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The commutal is part of the cover up, wake up!!!

Did Bush tell you he wasn't part of it? Is that why you believe it?

show me somewhere other than commutal where it says Bush was directly involved.
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He probably doesn't even know what exactly is going on.
I find it appalling that your support is so unwavering for a man you paint to be practically clueless on the actions of his staff.

Do you agree that Cheney's actions in this scandal could be grounds for impeachment?

If so, would you also agree that, regardless of the legal right of Presidential commutations, preventing an investigation from bringing to justice those who were ultimately responsible for a crime, especially one as severe as this (Bush Sr. even called the outing of CIA agent traitorous), is a cowardly act and shows an unhealthy amount of contempt for justice and the rule of law?

You simply cannot say that Bush is clueless on this and then say he did it for Cheney. If he did it to save Cheney's ass, he's not clueless and knows he's covering up criminal activity. That is a disgrace to the office. Period. This is not about partisan us vs. them politics. I guarantee you that if Clinton was in this same situation and did the same thing, I and many other liberals/democrats/whatever would be just as outraged. It should be an affront to every American who seeks justice and respects the founding principles of our nation.
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Do you agree that Cheney's actions in this scandal could be grounds for impeachment?
Cheney yes, Bush no. Should the middle man who is covering up for Cheney with two young children have to sit in jail for two years over this, no.
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show me somewhere other than commutal where it says Bush was directly involved.
That's not enough for you?

Wow, you are unbelievable...
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show me somewhere other than commutal where it says Bush was directly involved.
it was bush's public lie on his state of the union address in 2003 that started this whole scandal. then cheney ordered the outing to cover bush's ass. now bush commuted libby to cover cheney's ass. they both are covering each other's asses.
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He probably doesn't even know what exactly is going on.
True statement. Bush doesn't know what's going on on every issue.
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Should the middle man who is covering up for Cheney with two young children have to sit in jail for two years over this, no.
Having children doesn't give anyone special treatment. There are a lot of fathers in prison. He should of thought of his children and his country before he perjured himself.
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True statement. Bush doesn't know what's going on on every issue.
Well to be fair, I don't think Bush knows much about anything...
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