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Old 07-03-2002, 02:36 PM   #16
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Well..
Ppl need to stop bashing Bush, thats all.
It doent FIX the problem.
Read you..my Euro friend
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Old 07-03-2002, 02:52 PM   #17
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Diamond, I haven't bashed Bush. But I'm curious as to what you think he should do next. Or do you think he's done "enough"?

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Diamond, I haven't bashed Bush. But I'm curious as to what you think he should do next. Or do you think he's done "enough"?

_Olive
No no Olive.
I was refering to Rono.
You r not from Europe.

My hope is that GW takes Bono's lead still.
My hope is also that Bono does not despair.
At the very least he has brought this issue forward into the pyscie-sp-
of the American ppl.
Its really up to us now.
Other than Bono DONATING all of his personal wealth there ISNT much more he can do.
My FINAL hope is at the END of Bono's life like in 50 yrs when he is called home by his Creator..that he will be embraced and told his efforts were not in vain.
Hope this clarifies.


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No no Olive.
I was refering to Rono.
You r not from Europe.

My hope is that GW takes Bono's lead still.
My hope is also that Bono does not despair.
At the very least he has brought this issue forward into the pyscie-sp-
of the American ppl.
Its really up to us now.
Other than Bono DONATING all of his personal wealth there ISNT much more he can do.
My FINAL hope is at the END of Bono's life like in 50 yrs when he is called home by his Creator..that he will be embraced and told his efforts were not in vain.
Hope this clarifies.


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Diamond- you defend GW a lot around here so I'm interested further in if you think he WILL do anything else- as in does his history show that he will?

As far as the American people helping- all we have to do is open our mouths right? Email, make phone calls? Sherry Darling has been promoting her site where all the info I think is easily available. Or is there more we can do (this is not just for diamond)

I agree with you about Bono having done everything he could. I can't imagine how upsetting it must be for him- to go and see how these people are living, and then to see the politicans NOT be affected by that enough to make change. When he says "I will have done nothing more than view their tragedy".. it is upsetting, and I think of how he said the next time the Africans see the US flag if we haven't done anything to help they will be throwing stones instead of cheering. It's awful and it's true.
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The pt is Lilly-
With ALL this going on..Bush STILL did more, then your favorite son UNDER BETTER circumstances.
Back off plez.

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my favorite son huh?

quite an ASSumption imo.

ass.

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Old 07-03-2002, 03:21 PM   #21
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Olive
YES I think he will.
How? Dunno exactly.
I have faith in the guy-Bush.
He is making a trip to africa soon.
He did tell Bono in his office that Aids in Africa was GENOCIDE.
He told Bono he wanted him back...
Umm other than their METHODS on HOW dont match exactly I think they will meet on some common ground.

I do like Bono's 2 prong approach to terrorism ie -Snuff out the thugs.
and
Educate and FEED the the suspectible ones close to the terrorists to help them see the US' compassion..and to alleviate future terrorists from springing up.

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Well..
Ppl need to stop bashing Bush, thats all.
It doent FIX the problem.
Read you..my Euro friend
Diamond
I just wondering why, when there are critical voices about Bush, Clinton turns up.

And 1 Euro is 0.97 Dollar, we getting closer


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I just wondering why, when there are critical voices about Bush, Clinton turns up.

exactly!
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Old 07-03-2002, 05:35 PM   #24
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exactly!
Becuuuuuzzzzzzzz
The same people that bash Bush never bash Clinton .

And they are IGNORING the fact under the circumstances Bush is DOING MORE than ever Clinton did.
They never critized Clinton re Africa/Aids.
Why?

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I can see why everyone is upset here, and at the least a bit curious to why and what is next?

I think, Rono, that Diamond's point is while CLinton did nothing for this cause he never gets credit. Yet Clinton's supporters jump all up Bush's ass and demand to know everything and why???

Folks Bush has proven to be an honest man thus far, and if he said he would give a certain dollar amount and since has backtracked, then don't we assume he ahs a damn good reason? OF course we want to know what it is, but maybe we don't as we are not qualified or possibly prepared to hear the answer.

ANd I am saying that in a way that insinuates that he is making an attempt, that more will come.

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I dont think bashing Bush will do anything. I hope that Bush will do something and do it fast. We (world) need to find a cure for this diease and make it available to everyone.
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Wow. Some great discussion.

A few thoughts.

One, I see some new faces to this discussion, who express here on this very thread their disappointment with the inadequacy of the aid Bush promised. Let me offer your personal invitation to write or call. Letters are on the site in my sig (thanks for the plug Olive...LOL). Here are the #'s again to make it nice and easy.

Bush 202 456 1414
O'Neill 202 622 0190

Happy calling.

Someone asked what else we can do. Here's what, to my mind.

1. Don't give up speaking out! Remember, aid is only one of the issues here. Debt cancellation and fair trade are critical, and we MUST deal with our leaders on these issues because they are the ones in the offices of power. But WE put them there. So the power is really ours.

2. There is indeed something to be said for private aid. There are a lot of places where anyone can sponsor a child. I use Christian Children's fund. They're not enough by themselves, and they could improve, but I shudder to think what Africa would be like without them.

Bono's emphasized how important it is not to "play politics" as he puts it, with this. He's right. Just a thought.

DB9-- you suggest (wisely ) the need for facts. Got any? Educate us. And btw, your final wish for the B man is lovely. Amen!

You all know the deal. Make the call, write the letter. Let me know and I'll put you on the list.

Then when I meet Bono in Dublin, I can show him the site, he'll hire me to work for DATA and I'll invite every Angel for a private party at Adam's castle.

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I dont think bashing Bush will do anything. I hope that Bush will do something and do it fast. We (world) need to find a cure for this diease and make it available to everyone.
I agree Miss -honey (wild)

Your point and everyone elses are so true. No matter our political beliefs, we should all unite for this one; to help out our fellow man in need.

Sherry Darling has a great post, and what she is doing is great!

Anyway, thanks for the pointers
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Sherry Darling has a great post, and what she is doing is great!

Anyway, thanks for the pointers
Thank you. I hope that means you'll call or write?

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Old 07-03-2002, 10:39 PM   #30
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I dont think bashing Bush will do anything. I hope that Bush will do something and do it fast. We (world) need to find a cure for this diease and make it available to everyone.

What AWHoney said.
What ZEdge said.
In a nutshell-Clinton talked/acted like he was concerned about Africa/Aids/Debt.-did little to nothing.

Bush talked about Africa/Aids/Debt and did a little something..not enough though, reason being War on Terror. Meantime liberals are ready to cast stones immedeatley at Bush. Believe me Bush is not done w Debt Relief/Aids in Africa... Esp w Bono pestering him . I hope you guys (who bash Bush) sent some of your Bush 600.00 tax refund to an Aids Shelter or African Charity of your choice.
Its nice to have choices on how to spend your money. :idea:


Sherry you are great.
Thank you for being you

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