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Old 11-15-2005, 11:12 AM   #16
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I appreciate it when celebrities try to make a contribution for whichever cause. I do not particularly care for their opinion though.
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Care to name some of the celebrities in hollywood that have been willing to make sizeable monetary contributions towards the war on terror?


perhaps we can't know about it because other celebrities who donate their money aren't as vocal about it as Mr. Willis.
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His facts are wrong? What? You don't think Osama Bin Laden was behind 9-11?
bin laden was a financial backer and "approved" the mission... he did not plan it. another common misconception by a large majority of americans.
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perhaps we can't know about it because other celebrities who donate their money aren't as vocal about it as Mr. Willis.


i hate peple who feel the need to brag about how much money they donate...

there's a subtle yet huge difference between celebriteis who actually do... i.e. bono, geldof... even george clooney... and celebrities who show up when it's time to publicize a new movie by throwing their name and money at charities and the like.
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Ok...

1. You said his facts are wrong. What facts does he have wrong?
Did you read Headache's response?


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2. You said celebrities are making sacrifices greater that Willis. Examples please.
I'd say someone like Sean Penn actually visiting Bagdhad prior to the war is a lot more than a mere 1 million for a movie star. Regardless of where you stand on the war...
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perhaps we can't know about it because other celebrities who donate their money aren't as vocal about it as Mr. Willis.
Well, Bono Vox claims to know so I'm just waiting for his/her elaboration.
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I'd say someone like Sean Penn actually visiting Bagdhad prior to the war is a lot more than a mere 1 million for a movie star. Regardless of where you stand on the war...
Willis visted Iraq as well.
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I'd say someone like Sean Penn actually visiting Bagdhad prior to the war is a lot more than a mere 1 million for a movie star. Regardless of where you stand on the war...


agreed.

i don't agree with some of Sean Penn's politics, and the one time i saw him on Larry King talking about it he struck me as a very poor spokesman for his work. too bad, it was almost embarassing.

but the man was also in a canoe padding around Lake New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. that, to me, is more dignified than a sort of "yippie-kai-yay motherfucker" $1m from Willis.

i don't have a problem with Willis choosing how he spends his money. but if we are going to start making comparisons and talking about "sacrafice," then i can think of others who do more noble things than toss $1m at a problem.

heck, even Leonardo DiCaprio and his Prius strikes me as doing more good than Willis.
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bin laden was a financial backer and "approved" the mission... he did not plan it. another common misconception by a large majority of americans.
Osama bin Laden gave the final approval for the attacks, as you stated.

Therefore, he is the one to be held ultimately responsible.
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Willis visted Iraq as well.
Behind the protection of his countries lines...a little different from what Penn did.
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I'm just sick of those that bitch about "Hollywood" when it's not on their side, but when someone donates an amount of money they can sneeze out on a weekly basis then they sing their praise.
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I appreciate it when celebrities try to make a contribution for whichever cause. I do not particularly care for their opinion though.


Too bad writing checks doesn't feed the ego like a good press conference.

And at the end of the day, Willis will have had his press conference, but will not write a check.
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Ha! What police force or state has millions of extra dollars to put on rewards? The state should give me back the education money it took away halfway through the semester.
No, I just mean it could be fatal if every person who has some money and such possibilities to get into TV could donate some money for information.
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Ok...

1. You said his facts are wrong. What facts does he have wrong?

2. You said celebrities are making sacrifices greater that Willis. Examples please.
The facts are the people behind 9/11. Osama bin Ladan - yes. The others Willis lists - no.

And I know Julia Roberts donated $1M of her money IMMEDIATELY to charity upon 9/11. She didn't wait 4+ years and then offer it only as a reward for the arrest of people not directly involved in 9/11.

Is that a good enough example?

That said, I respect what Willis is doing - I just think it needs some tweaking.
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MaxFisher, do you view donating money as the only way to sacrifice or support something.
It seems like the sacrifices are defined by the amount of money one donated.

But there are other possibilities to support something or sacrifice, than donating money, and the can be even bigger than $1 million.
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