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Old 03-09-2008, 08:13 PM   #16
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Seriously, the Democrats have done a pretty good job of fucking themselves already for the last 7 years. I fail to see how it's all Hillary's fault. That said, yes, her comment about McCain being basically better than Obama was another low point for her.
She lost me at the "He's not Muslim....as far as I know" comment. I think she hit rock bottom with that one. Pathetic.
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as I already posted in this thread here

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well, because I am an old bastard, (even though I don't look it)
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She lost me at the "He's not Muslim....as far as I know" comment. I think she hit rock bottom with that one. Pathetic.
joyful

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he is playing into their hands
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Irvine and I have been saying this for awhile now.
and diamond!
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he is playing into their hands
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I was going to address that post of yours

but it slipped by


in a way Obama
is his own worse enemy

Is it in judo?
where one conserves their energy by using their opponents momentum against them?

McCain is a much better candidate for his 2000 experience
I believe that whole lobbyist/ affair was a bullshit story to get him to go berserk and self destruct

in 2000 he would have blown it.
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Senator Clinton is a train wreck-w/Bill as the power intoxicated engineer, and her as a dis gruntled dependent in first class.

The train's broke, catch a cab a go away quietly, please.

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The question that begs to be asked is:

Do the Clintons have one iota of social grace in their personas, or is always about them and what they think their entitled to.

They're getting as bad as Ron Paul and Huckabee.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle3510778.ece

Even John Edward finally got the message, although there are rumors that he has a love child soon to be born-that may have forced his departure.

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But if the king has no clothes on
then the king is seen for what he is.


this is the kind of experience we need:

[q]Nobel winner: Hillary Clinton's 'silly' Irish peace claims

By Toby Harnden in Washington
Last Updated: 9:30am GMT 08/03/2008

Hillary Clinton had no direct role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and is a "wee bit silly" for exaggerating the part she played, according to Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former First Minister of the province.

"I don’t know there was much she did apart from accompanying Bill [Clinton] going around," he said. Her recent statements about being deeply involved were merely "the sort of thing people put in their canvassing leaflets" during elections. "She visited when things were happening, saw what was going on, she can certainly say it was part of her experience. I don’t want to rain on the thing for her but being a cheerleader for something is slightly different from being a principal player."

Mrs Clinton has made Northern Ireland key to her claims of having extensive foreign policy experience, which helped her defeat Barack Obama in Ohio and Texas on Tuesday after she presented herself as being ready to tackle foreign policy crises at 3am.

"I helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland," she told CNN on Wednesday. But negotiators from the parties that helped broker the Good Friday Agreement in 1998 told The Daily Telegraph that her role was peripheral and that she played no part in the gruelling political talks over the years.

Lord Trimble shared the Nobel Peace Prize with John Hume, leader of the nationalist Social Democratic and Labour Party, in 1998. Conall McDevitt, an SDLP negotiator and aide to Mr Hume during the talks, said: "There would have been no contact with her either in person or on the phone. I was with Hume regularly during calls in the months leading up to the Good Friday Agreement when he was taking calls from the White House and they were invariably coming from the president."
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Central to Mrs Clinton’s claim of an important Northern Ireland role is a meeting she attended in Belfast in with a group of women from cross-community groups. "I actually went to Northern Ireland more than my husband did," she said in Nashua, New Hampshire on January 6th.

"I remember a meeting that I pulled together in Belfast, in the town hall there, bringing together for the first time Catholics and Protestants from both traditions, having them sitting a room where they had never been before with each other because they don’t go to school together, they don’t live together and it was only in large measure because I really asked them to come that they were there.

"And I wasn’t sure it was going to be very successful and finally a Catholic woman on one side of the table said, ’You know, every time my husband leaves for work in the morning I worry he won’t come home at night.

"And then a Protestant woman on the other side said, ’Every time my son tries to go out at night I worry he won’t come home again’. And suddenly instead of seeing each other as caricatures and stereotypes they saw each other as human beings and the slow, hard work of peace-making could move forward."

There is no record of a meeting at Belfast City Hall, though Mrs Clinton attended a ceremony there when her husband turned on the Christmas tree lights in November 1995. The former First Lady appears to be referring a 50-minute event the same day, arranged by the US Consulate, the same day at the Lamp Lighter Café on the city’s Ormeau Road. [/q]
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Not to mention she had no national security clearance


But what do I know, I'm just a stupid, whiney whipper-snapper who needs to be spanked. I guess youth = stupidity.
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we're doing what democrats do best.

destroying from the inside out.
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But what do I know, I'm just a stupid, whiney whipper-snapper who needs to be spanked.
I have something to say - but my wife is sitting next to me giving me the I know what you were going to type look.
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destroying from the inside out.
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SHe hit me anyway!!!!!
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