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Old 06-22-2005, 03:43 PM   #106
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Utterly predictable.
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:53 PM   #107
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Utterly predictable.
UDDERLY RIDICULOUS:

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Old 06-22-2005, 04:22 PM   #108
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That's not true. Just last month somone said that abortions are sometimes "very good things".

That someone was me, and I still stand by that statement. I did not however, say that an abortion was a joyous occasion, which is what you seem to believe I meant.

Often something that is a very good thing is not without pain or regret. To think otherwise is overly simplistic.
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Can't abortion legality be handed too the states?
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Old 06-22-2005, 04:51 PM   #110
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blow jobs are the answer to the worlds problems


So if you arent ready or willing to care for a baby but youre married, having sex isnt a good idea?
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Old 06-22-2005, 06:07 PM   #111
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blow jobs are the answer to the worlds problems


yes, they are.

and the great thing about being gay, is that you get to give AND receive.

and, sometimes, 'tis better to give than receive.



on a somewhat serious sidenote, why aren't alternatives to penetrative intercourse discussed more? i know you heteros have a lot to deal with, espeically you straight girls living in a world rife with double standards and all and that horrible virgin/whore dichotomy, when it comes to pregnancy. aren't there other things you can do that won't result in pregnancy? be creative!
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Old 06-22-2005, 06:18 PM   #112
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Um ,whats wrong with calling an unplanned child a mistake?
If it wasnt intentional....then what is it?
I was a mistake.
Im glad my parents didnt suck my brains out

A mistake is something you regret and you should never regret having a child...I was unplanned and my mom certainly doesn't look at me as a mistake. My first son was unplanned and I would never call him a mistake.

If someone chooses to continue an unplanned pregnancy, I would hope they don't have any regrets or look upon the baby as a mistake. It seems kind of sad to call it that.
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A mistake is something you regret and you should never regret having a child...I was unplanned and my mom certainly doesn't look at me as a mistake. My first son was unplanned and I would never call him a mistake.

If someone chooses to continue an unplanned pregnancy, I would hope they don't have any regrets or look upon the baby as a mistake. It seems kind of sad to call it that.
My apologies for not choosing my words more carefully. I meant no harm in that. I'm pretty sure that I was an untimely pregancy as well. I was the last of 3 kids, and I don't think that my parents had the resources at the time to support me. We had some rough years, (I remember that I had to drink Powdered Milk at one point because Milk was too expensive) but they kept at it and were able to provide a decent place for me to grow up in.

I'm going to back out of FYM for a little while. Some are able to argue with great humor (Thank You Irvine!), but some (including myself) can get quite animated in their defense of a position and I'm not here to generate bad blood. I just wanted to introduce a different perspective than the prevalent one that exists here. We can sharpen each other's position when we debate back and forth, but once people's feelings get tossed in, it's hard not to offend. So I'm going to take a break. Have fun I'm sure I'll be back.
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I'm going to back out of FYM for a little while. Some are able to argue with great humor (Thank You Irvine!), but some (including myself) can get quite animated in their defense of a position and I'm not here to generate bad blood. I just wanted to introduce a different perspective than the prevalent one that exists here. We can sharpen each other's position when we debate back and forth, but once people's feelings get tossed in, it's hard not to offend. So I'm going to take a break. Have fun I'm sure I'll be back.
Hey thanks for your input.

Pity in a way, we are short of intelligent conservatives around here.
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man fg, that's pretty rude.
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So if you arent ready or willing to care for a baby but youre married, having sex isnt a good idea?
Let me rephrase it then - if you're not willing to have a baby (not necessarily desire) or if you wouldn't be responsible and mature enough to care for a baby in the case that birth control should fail, then sex isn't a good idea.
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man fg, that's pretty rude.
How do you mean? We are short of conservatives, surely that is obvious? For example, there's only 2 or 3 of us that are anti-abortion.
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How do you mean? We are short of conservatives, surely that is obvious? For example, there's only 2 or 3 of us that are anti-abortion.
You said we're short of intelligent conservatives.
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:20 PM   #119
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come on guys
80's u2 wasnt being rude.
Theres an obvious majority of liberals over conservatives in here
80's u2:
I know that Im not emotionally ready to care for a child, Im on birth control, and Im getting married in 3 weeks. Theres no freakin way Im staying away from sex. Youre saying that even in a setting (marriage) such as that if Im not ready to care for a child that sex is a bad idea?
Im just trying to be clear on the point youre making
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come on guys
80's u2 wasnt being rude.
Theres an obvious majority of liberals over conservatives in here
80's u2:
I know that Im not emotionally ready to care for a child, Im on birth control, and Im getting married in 3 weeks. Theres no freakin way Im staying away from sex. Youre saying that even in a setting (marriage) such as that if Im not ready to care for a child that sex is a bad idea?
Im just trying to be clear on the point youre making
I'm not sure if you read the post above where I rephrased it, but here it is, in case you didn't:

"If you're not willing to have a baby (not necessarily desire) or if you wouldn't be responsible and mature enough to care for a baby in the case that birth control should fail, then sex isn't a good idea."

In other words, if you know that birth control failing and leading to a pregnancy would destroy your life and you'd run around like a chicken with its head cut off saying "On no, what do I do now - I'm pregnant - I can't care for this baby!", then I think sex is not a good idea.
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