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Old 06-22-2005, 10:01 AM   #46
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I've never shrieked "baby killer".

i see you edited where you said you never "called" anyone baby killer

shriek, call, infer, lable

is there a difference?


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what would you like prolifers to do, not mention that we think that abortion is killing babies?
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:04 AM   #47
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i also don't see what your very unfortunate situation has to do with abortion. i am very sorry for your loss, but i don't see how it applies to this particular situation.
Crisis pregnancy...unemployed..

My point was that I have been in a situation where, to the world, an abortion would be a plausible resolution. So, I know a little bit about facing parenthood that wasn't planned.
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I'm interested in the scientific view on this. Are we saying human life begins at conception? I believe that the foetus deserves the benefit of the doubt, but that's just my opinion.

Using phrases like 'baby-killer' is unlikely to win support for the anti-abortion cause for those in the middle.
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i see you edited where you said you never "called" anyone baby killer
I edited it simply to address specifically what I was accused of - "shrieking".

I have never called anyone a baby killer.

If I did make a habit of calling anyone a "baby killer", it wouldn't be the mother I would call the baby killer.
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Are you implying these women are kidnapped and their fetuses forciably aborted?
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Are you implying these women are kidnapped and their fetuses forciably aborted?
I sure am not.
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abortion is killing babies?
so if a woman walks in and pays for this she has no reponsibility for what you call "killing babies".
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I'm interested in the scientific view on this. Are we saying human life begins at conception? I believe that the foetus deserves the benefit of the doubt, but that's just my opinion.

Using phrases like 'baby-killer' is unlikely to win support for the anti-abortion cause for those in the middle.
I understand what you are saying, and some may take the sentence "abortion is murder" as offensive. But if people believe that abortion is murder, shouldn't that be the tactic they use to try and stop abortion? Would a simple "Abortion is bad", or "Abortion is not nice" ever work?

I think what should happen is that every abortion protestor should carry around an in-depth fetal development timeline, complete with sonogram photos. Then, when they tell a young girl in a crisis pregnancy that abortion is murder, they can show her the timeline to further reinforce their claim.
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so if a woman walks in and pays for this she has no reponsibility for what you call "killing babies".
Certainly she bears some responsibility.

However, teenage girls don't usually have all the info, and probably don't realize the extent of what they are doing. All they can see is that they are going to have a baby and that will be very hard on them.

Doctors, however, know full well that the fetus is a developing human being. They know full well that the heart starts beating after just a few weeks. They know.
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Is the morning after pill murder?
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Is the morning after pill murder?
What does it do?
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It has been a while since my public education on reproduction

but,

I believe is causes an egg that a sperm has penetrated from becoming implanted or remaining in the uterus wall.
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wow, this discussion has escalated

Heres one other thing to consider
The lifelong scars the mother who has aborted her child has to carry
I cant imagine aborting my baby and not thinking about it every day. Wondering who they would have become if I had given it up for adoption or kept it.
I just cant fathom what a woman who has done this deals with on a day to day basis

Ive used the morning after pill before...
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Question (for the pro-lifers)-

A woman in her late twenties, with a long family history of depression/alcoholism. Is recently coming out of living in a homeless shelter for 2 years, has a job she enjoys, nice apt, still struggling but getting her life back together. Has no health insurance. Due to her family history, she has known her whole life, she never wanted to give birth to a child, or get married.

Is in a monogamous long term relationship, has been on birth control for 5 years, and yet STILL becomes pregnant.

What is she supposed to do in this situation?
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imo? give it to somebody who wants it

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Question (for the pro-lifers)-

A woman in her late twenties, with a long family history of depression/alcoholism. Is recently coming out of living in a homeless shelter for 2 years, has a job she enjoys, nice apt, still struggling but getting her life back together. Has no health insurance. Due to her family history, she has known her whole life, she never wanted to give birth to a child, or get married.

Is in a monogamous long term relationship, has been on birth control for 5 years, and yet STILL becomes pregnant.

What is she supposed to do in this situation?
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