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Old 10-10-2005, 12:13 AM   #76
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Thats incorrect. I don't know any conservatives on this board that made any claim that BONO had become a conservative. On the other hand, there are large number of "liberals" here who like to pretend that BONO supports everyone of their causes and has the same hatred and anger they have towards BUSH or any other conservative politician they don't like, and I've proven that is not the case. BONO has independent views that don't always match up with the typical "liberal" agenda.
Oh, please! As if all liberals have the exact same agenda and the exact same way of doing things. And what about all of the people on this board who have said that even though they don't like Bush, they understand why Bono is meeting with him?
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Sorry - I tend to be a spelling stickler - didn't mean to make you feel bad
No no... I was sincere!

I really was glad you fixed my spelling error. I've been spelling Conan as Connan for a long time, and you made me realize it.
(as in, even though it is spelled correctly in the title of this thread, that still didn't make me realize it. Why, if you hadn't mentioned it, I might have been using "Connan" forever... and that wouldn't be right )

I make a lot of mistakes in spelling, but I never feel bad about someone correcting them or pointing them out.

But I'll accept your hug just the same

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Old 10-10-2005, 12:31 AM   #78
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Hopefully I'll spell this right, or correctly, and use good grammar...

I just want to say that Bono is the smartest celebrity on the planet at the moment. He's keenly aware of his audience, wherever he goes, whatever show he's on, including Conan.

I think he's a liberal at heart, but one who has seen what happens to other liberals of his ilk when they 'go off' on rants; people who alienate the decision-makers instead of getting them to listen.

Bono takes on the qualities, and pushes the teachings of those he's admired the most, namely John Lennon, MLK, and Jesus.

Basically, his message is one of love...and he's a genuis at getting EVERYONE to hear it, no matter their party, belief, or skin colour.
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Oh, please! As if all liberals have the exact same agenda and the exact same way of doing things. And what about all of the people on this board who have said that even though they don't like Bush, they understand why Bono is meeting with him?
Though you are of course correct, in a sense you're missing the point. You see, Sting2 is not arguing with you, or with any other actual poster on FYM. He is imagining a vast 'liberal' block of opinion, which actually only exists in his imagination, or possibly in the imagination of a few pundits on Fox News also. The vast leftie conspiracy, as it were. He probably thinks that anyone who did not support the Iraq invasion is some kind of communist.

I have come to realise that it is largely a waste of time arguing with Sting2 on politics, as he is apparently suffering from several delusions.
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^ aren't we all?




well........ most of us........ ......... ......
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Though you are of course correct, in a sense you're missing the point. You see, Sting2 is not arguing with you, or with any other actual poster on FYM. He is imagining a vast 'liberal' block of opinion, which actually only exists in his imagination, or possibly in the imagination of a few pundits on Fox News also. The vast leftie conspiracy, as it were. He probably thinks that anyone who did not support the Iraq invasion is some kind of communist.

I have come to realise that it is largely a waste of time arguing with Sting2 on politics, as he is apparently suffering from several delusions.
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Bono is a smart man. He's able to get his message across so that righties hear what they want to hear, and lefties hear what they want to hear (although he is subtle when it comes to bashing bush, blair, etc).
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Wow Bono sure is a subtle guy. I don't listen to his band anymore, but way to go on the political front.
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Old 10-10-2005, 08:49 AM   #84
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Bono is a smart man. He's able to get his message across so that righties hear what they want to hear, and lefties hear what they want to hear (although he is subtle when it comes to bashing bush, blair, etc).
I would say that this is true of everyone.......not righties and lefties.
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I would say that this is true of everyone.......not righties and lefties.
Well most people are right, left, or somewhere in between, so I covered 2/3 of them
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Wow Bono sure is a subtle guy. I don't listen to his band anymore, but way to go on the political front.
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see that's why I actually thought Conan did a reasonable job in that interview...he allowed bono to show how he both found helms for instance problematic in his positions (oh no, bono said the band said to him, you're not gonna go meet with him are you he dismantled the nea for instance) and that he was going to meet with him anyway and that indeed the man actually came out and apologized about something.
And Conan pointed to Bono's ability to avoid the polarization we've been so crippled by politically. I really believe that there is genuine desire to give people the benefit of some doubt in Bono, to allow them to change their positions, to do the right thing, to stop being hateful, to admit to mistakes. I don't think its "merely" that he is marketing ideas very carefully, though that's clearly true...who knows?
But as Neil Young sung, even Richard Nixon has got soul...
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yea i really don't feel like reading all of this because i have to head back out to the garden in like 10 minutes, but frankly... if you're getting pissed off at bono for working/talking/praising bush and others on the right, you're really missing the whole damn point, aren't you?

to accomplish what bono wants to accomplish, he needs all parties working together as... ... ONE.

pandering to the left and ignoring the right will accomplish nothing.
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yea i really don't feel like reading all of this because i have to head back out to the garden in like 10 minutes, but frankly... if you're getting pissed off at bono for working/talking/praising bush and others on the right, you're really missing the whole damn point, aren't you?

to accomplish what bono wants to accomplish, he needs all parties working together as... ... ONE.

pandering to the left and ignoring the right will accomplish nothing.
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to Headache and angelordevil's posts. I would most definitely be at odds with some of the people Bono hangs around with-if it were me in Bono's place, I'd really have to try and bite my tongue around a lot of people in that administration. But I understand what Bono is doing this for, and as he's said before, now is not the time to play politics. If some political official from either side refuses to help Bono's cause simply because that would mean they'd have to *gasp* work with the opposing side, then I'd say they're acting incredibly lame and need to grow up.

In this world, we will all encounter people we won't agree with on a lot of things. Is it always fun? No. But that's life. Bono is aware of this, and works as best he can with these people, and I really respect and admire him for that. Like Conan said on the show last week, he's very optimistic. And with a situation like this, I would think one would kinda have to be, because cynicism won't solve a darned thing, it'll just make things worse.

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