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Old 01-08-2003, 08:19 PM   #1
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Bono's Iraq Peace Trip

I don't think this has been posted anywhere yet, if it has, sorry about that....

Evening Standard
January 8, 2003

Bono's Iraq Peace Trip


Another fly in the ointment for George Bush. U2's frontman Bono is
planning to visit Iraq in the next couple of weeks -- to publicise the humanitarian crisis which would result from any war. Actor Sean Penn, who made a controversial visit to Baghdad last month, has been lobbying the Dubliner to follow in his tracks. "He's been putting pressure on him to follow suit," says Kathy Kelly, one of the American human shields Penn visited in Iraq. "Apparently he's going to come."

Bono is affectionately known within the corridors of the White House as "The Pest" and only last year George W. Bush paid him a generous tribute: "He has a willingness to lead, to achieve what his heart tells him, and a belief that nobody should be living in poverty in the world." Let's hope the visit doesn't sour their relations too much. A spokesman for Bono admits: "He is involved. To be honest I can't tell you straight off. We don't give out his plans."
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wow! that would be amazing if Bono actually goes there. As much as I dont want to go to war, I think Saddam is up to something and if we have to go to war to find out or to stop it i think thats what we should do. I would much rather not have a war at all tho.
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This is irrelevant but I always thought Sean Penn & Bono looked like brothers.


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as much as i believe bono's heart is in the right place, i also think this might be kind of a bad idea. by putting his name on too many issues, he might start to be seen as insincere by the general public. sometimes i think it's a good idea to try and stay focused on one agenda, i.e. africa, and attempt to see that through first. right now he has few critics and people are (hopefully) starting to listen to him and agree with him that something needs to be done, and i would hate for the controversy in iraq to dampen his popularity. this could end up hurting him in the long run. despite the fact that there is possibly a massive humanitarian crisis looming in iraq, bono could be seen as a sean penn type (god forbid) - meaning someone who is seriously overstepping their boundaries and acting like an expert on something they don't fully understand.
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I do not think that Bono's friend, Representative Tom Lantos (D-California) would like Bono going over to Iraq and buddying up with Saddam. Maybe Sean could get a Baldwin or Tony Shaloub to go over there with him instead.

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I really hope this is just a rumour. Of course it's none of my beeswax if Bono goes to Iraq but what is he trying to accomplish by doing this?
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I really hope this is just a rumour. Of course it's none of my beeswax if Bono goes to Iraq but what is he trying to accomplish by doing this?
oktobergirl,

Since you have gone on record as opposing the war, I'm curious to know why you think Bono shouldn't visit Iraq.
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I really hope this is just a rumour. Of course it's none of my beeswax if Bono goes to Iraq but what is he trying to accomplish by doing this?
Sorry, but I have to agree. I would hate for him to come back looking like a big boob the way Mr. Penn did.
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I just think its useless and I really wouldn't want him to risk his credibility.

Bush and Blair arent going to give a flying **** if Bono goes to Iraq to protest an attack.

Yes, I oppose the war. Bono can too. But why go to Iraq to do it? Sure it will bring about publicity but what is the end result? Is Bono going to be able to stop a war from happening?

I think the guy is amazing but even he can't do that.
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my take = this-
bono may go but prolly wont.
if he goes Bush will call off the war.
if Bono stays behind we will go to war.

Bono is the only person/celebrity w credibility and substance.

last scenirio-
bono could visit and say-
we should go in and get rid of the tyrant. baffling everyone including the winging liberals..

than what?

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Well I'll be the odd one out here and say I really admire Bono if this is true. It's very easy for people to just say they oppose war (okay, it's not always easy given the patriotism police crap at the moment, but you get my drift.) but it's an entirely different matter to actually *do* something about it, especially if doing something involves actually going to Iraq to publicise the horrendous consequences of a war.

For everyone who asked why go to Iraq - to get people's attention. Think about it - a celebrity makes an antiwar statement and how much coverage does it get in the media? Someone actually goes over to Iraq, meets the people who are going to suffer if this war goes ahead, tries to draw attention to their individual stories - that's going to get far more publicity.

I think almost everyone here welcomes Bono visiting Africa, drawing attention to the humanitarian disaster there. So why would you oppose him doing the same for the people in Iraq who are undoubtedly going to suffer a humanitarian disaster if their country is attacked.
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I certainilty dont look forward to Bono becoming the media next laughing stock. Why wont he just focus on one thing instead of becoming over publized and making his word not as strong. Bono really is going to run himself into the ground.

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I'll be selfish...

I want him to be safe. Harass Dubba in the white house but don't go to Iraq Bono.
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I would hate for him to come back looking like a big boob the way Mr. Penn did.
I'm pretty certain I heard that Penn said he was very disappointed..that he felt he had been used as propaganda by the Iraqis. Maybe I'm mistaken. It was a bit ironic though that someone so opposed to violence in Iraq has a rather sordid record of personal violence himself..whatever

So why would he encourage Bono to go there?

Bono can do whatever he wants, obviously, but my gut feeling is that he shouldn't do this
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Well I'll be the odd one out here and say I really admire Bono if this is true. It's very easy for people to just say they oppose war (okay, it's not always easy given the patriotism police crap at the moment, but you get my drift.) but it's an entirely different matter to actually *do* something about it, especially if doing something involves actually going to Iraq to publicise the horrendous consequences of a war.

For everyone who asked why go to Iraq - to get people's attention. Think about it - a celebrity makes an antiwar statement and how much coverage does it get in the media? Someone actually goes over to Iraq, meets the people who are going to suffer if this war goes ahead, tries to draw attention to their individual stories - that's going to get far more publicity.

I think almost everyone here welcomes Bono visiting Africa, drawing attention to the humanitarian disaster there. So why would you oppose him doing the same for the people in Iraq who are undoubtedly going to suffer a humanitarian disaster if their country is attacked.

the difference, to me anyway, is that the population in sub-saharan africa has no means whatsoever to help themselves in their plight. nothing. that's why it's fair for ousiders to their situation to step in and help.

in iraq, the "citizens" (should be called prisoners) are in their plight because of an evil dictator who has used illegal poisons against them in order to keep them in line, tortured, murdered, stolen property and valuables....the list goes on. it would've been nice along the way if their was an uprising and they realized what he was doing, maybe overthrew him themselves, and set up a democracy of some sort.

but that isn't going to happen. now, I'm not saying that I have all the answers to this, and to be honest, if the U.N. inspectors don't come back saying "well, we've found xxxxxx examples of weapons of mass destruction and plots to use them" I'm not sure I approve of us going in there; the reason is that no one is going to back us up and we're going to look like greedy idiots in it only for the oil. however, if there really is evidence that saddam is secretly developing and planning to use these weapons, or to export them to someone who will, then there's no doubt we've got to be pro-active in the situation.

so, if the inspectors say "yes, he's got them"- we go.
if we go, then isn't there a plan in place where we supply humanitarian aid while the war is going on and continue to after it's over? I thought we did this in the gulf war?
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