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Old 04-22-2005, 04:45 PM   #1
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Bono: What's always bothered me about the fundamentalists is

[Q]What's always bothered me about the fundamentalists is that they seem preoccupied with the most obvious sins. If those sins, sexual immorality and drug addiction, come out of unhappiness, then I am sure God wants to set people free of that unhappiness. But I couldn't figure out why the same people were never questioning the deeper, slyer problems of the human spirit like self-righteousness, judgementalism, institutional greed, corporate greed.You only have to look to unfair trade agreements that keep the developing world inthe Dark Ages to see the hypocrisy I'm talking about. These people talk about debasing a culture. What about the debasing of hundreds of thousands of real lives.[/Q]

Bono p. 167


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Corporate greed is at least as bad as any other kind of sin, as is ignoring the AIDS crisis in Africa. We are practically ignoring the AIDS pandemic in Africa, and this is a colossal sin. I have my doubts about the "hierarchy of sins" with sexual sins at the top. This has more to do with our orientation as a society than the true, harmful degree of evil, I believe. People have their priorities screwed up big time I think.
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My thoughts - Bono made a polite, watered down version of my thoughts.
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I guess a generalization of fundamentalists can lead you to such a conclusion on the one side.

If we could simply acknowledge (1) sin as sin and (2) we are all sinners, it would be a lot easier to work on the underlying problems together.
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YES SIR BONO!!

BONO really helps me see the picture as am still a christian today.

Scary when you hear the likes of Bush, Falwell, etc.
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Scary when you hear the likes of Bush, Falwell, etc.
Bush a fundamentalist? Ha!
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My thoughts - Bono made a polite, watered down version of my thoughts.
Second that...
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My thoughts - Bono made a polite, watered down version of my thoughts.
third that...

i think that book is going to be a fantastic read.
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third that...

i think that book is going to be a fantastic read.
I started it at 100 this afternoon. It is EXCELLENT.
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hasn't been released yet in canada.

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Is this the new book- Bono: In Conversation With Michka Assayas? If so I just ordered it from Amazon and right now it's in the mail.
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That is the book....and I am almost finished with it.
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I guess a generalization of fundamentalists can lead you to such a conclusion on the one side.

If we could simply acknowledge (1) sin as sin and (2) we are all sinners, it would be a lot easier to work on the underlying problems together.

I don't think he's generalizing--I think he's speaking from experience. I've read two sources stating that Shalom was a fundamentalist group.

Also, he's made the "sin is sin & we are all sinners" statement himself in at least one article that I have read. Thus his puzzlement that some overemphasize sexual sins, etc.
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But what about self-righteousness and judgementalism? I think that's the most interesting thing about his remark. It's easy for someone to judge and say "This is wrong" or "You're a sinner" [how many times do we do that here? ]. It's harder to realize you are judging and try to fix it. I mean, what are more guilty of: judging others or being gay?

One of my favorite bible passages is John 3:16-17. Everyone knows John 3:16 -- For God so loved the world that he sent his only Son yada yada. But John 3:17 says "Indeed, God did not send his Son to judge the world but to save it." If Jesus wasn't sent as a judge and all these Christians feel they can judge because they live a live based on Christ's teachings, isn't that hypocritical?
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If Jesus wasn't sent as a judge and all these Christians feel they can judge because they live a live based on Christ's teachings, isn't that hypocritical?
*Nods* I would think so. From what I've understood, God is to do the judging, not his followers.

Anywho, I'd have to agree with Bono on this one . I'm gonna have to look for that book, it sure sounds like it'd be an interesting read.

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