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Old 09-30-2004, 05:42 PM   #16
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Sure I have read it, Dreadsox

I think it is a fine speech and I hope it will be effective to some extent.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:47 PM   #17
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Anyways, I could go on forever about this speech and how Bono is my absolute mentor... I realize it's my first post here in FYM, which is surprising because I'm obessessed with politics
and it was an excellent post oceane. Bono is my absolute mentor too!
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:58 PM   #18
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I cannot picture anyone giving the speech to our political leaders here in the states.

He did give a testimony to the Senate Appropriations Foreign Operations Subcommittee in May.

http://www.data.org/archives/000502.php

It is about time for him to give a similiar speech in the states, and I bet he would have loved to have at the DNC & RNC. Here, the issue isn't getting that much floor time.

I hope to hear something during tonight's debate.
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Anyways, I could go on forever about this speech and how Bono is my absolute mentor... I realize it's my first post here in FYM, which is surprising because I'm obessessed with politics
Uh oh. We've roped in another one.
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Welcome Oceane

It was an exceptional speech.
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They had excerpts of it to view here on Comcast.

Great speech. There was nothing to argue with. It made me wish he was American and could run for president.
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They had excerpts of it to view here on Comcast.

Great speech. There was nothing to argue with. It made me wish he was American and could run for president.
"Bono for President", quoted many times. I'd feel a lot more comfortable with him then our canidates now.
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I think the important thing is not how BRILLIANT of a speaker Bono is or how EXCELLENT the speech was, but what will this speech of Bono's do to MOTIVATE EACH ONE OF US TO DO MORE TO SAVE AFRICA'S FUTURE?

Spending time simply posting about the B-man and Africa's challenges will not do much concrete to solve the issues that Bono speaks about, RECOMMITTING OUR ACTIONS TO DO MORE GOOD FOR AFRICA WILL!

For some of us who have been aware and active for some years now regarding the issues for Africa that Bono speaks about, all this speech does is highlight the fact that not enough has been done to help Africa, which is on the brink of social chaos due to the AIDS pandemic.

So, I do not comment too much anymore about how GREAT BONO WAS or how INSPIRATIONAL his speech was because I am too busy working towards the day when Africa has a positive Future and the B-man doesn't have to give these speeches anymore!

But I appreciate your newly found concern for Africa, Dreadsox - please don't lose it. Africa needs your Love and concern for her.

I bet BONO SMILES IN HIS HEART AND SOUL when he sees us, the U2 community, stand up and support him with our actions for Africa.

THE GOAL IS SOUL....
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I am not sure I would call it newfound. I was on the team, but sitting on the sidelines. I would say I am coming off the bench and getting in the game.
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Old 10-02-2004, 02:33 PM   #26
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Let's get real here on a couple of things - let's get to some uncomfortable truths.

Let's be clear about what this problem is and what this problem isn't.

Firstly, this is not about charity, it's about justice.

Let me repeat that:

This is not about charity, this is about justice.

And that's too bad.

Because you're good at charity. The British, like the Irish, are good at it. Even the poorest neighbourhoods give more than they can afford.

We like to give, and we give a lot. But justice is a tougher standard. Africa makes a fool of our idea of justice; it makes a farce of our idea of equality.
It mocks our pieties,
it doubts our concern,
it questions our commitment.

Because there's no way we can look at Africa- a continent bursting into flames -and if we're honest conclude that it would ever be allowed to happen anywhere else.
Anywhere else.
Certainly not here.
In Europe.
Or America.
Or Australia, or Canada.

There's just no chance.

You see, deep down, if we really accepted that Africans were equal to us, we would all do more to put the fire out.

We've got watering cans; when what we really need are the fire brigades.

That's the first tough truth.
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This is not about charity, this is about justice.
I think it needs repeating again.

I have never felt like I am living history as I am right now. This is so big. It is so unbelievable that it continues to miss the news day after day. I just imagine 20 years from now reading history books and it will be crystal clear then how wrong our countries slow reactions are. I hope we start picking up the pace.

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This is not just heart - it's smart.

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This is not about 'doing our best.'
It's win or lose.
Life or death.
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We are the first generation that can look extreme and stupid poverty in the eye, look across the water to Africa and elsewhere and say this and mean it:
we have the cash,
we have the drugs,
we have the science -- but do we have the will?

Do we have the will to make poverty history?

Some say we can't afford to.
I say we can't afford not to.
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I think it has taken a while for me to get that point. Sadly, I felt that it was charity. Maybe I am becoming thick headed in my old age.

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Dread - rock on.
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Old 10-03-2004, 05:57 AM   #30
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I think it has taken a while for me to get that point. Sadly, I felt that it was charity. Maybe I am becoming thick headed in my old age.

Peace
Not thick headed Dread - more like everyone else. A large % of the population just doesn't see this as justice or an emergency.

I think the world leaders are ready if the people stand up. I don't know why the world leaders aren't leading - it seems that they need the people to direct them to focus. Why doesn't President Bush do a press conference telling America what we need to do and ask for support? Canada has been the leader, and know it looks like the UK is the next in line if Blair & Brown come through as they appear to be doing.

I think the next step is media. People need to be informed daily about this emergency and that we aren't helping as much as we should. People need to be informed daily and realize that it isn't charity. It would be great if a Politician would step up to vocally campaign for support. A lot of them are saying they are committed - but the results aren't moving fast enough.
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