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Old 08-04-2007, 06:19 PM   #46
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:43 PM   #47
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It was really awesome reading that thinking Maddy had posted it, though.
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It would certainly be a disincentive from killing their way to the next life.
Hmmm....that sounds rather like the kinds of arguments Islamicist terrorists used in justifying the 911 attacks (i.e., 'America is being punished for what it might do in the future').

Interesting to note what neo-cons and the Islamofacists have in common - their willingness to consider pre-emptive strikes.
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Old 08-04-2007, 09:18 PM   #49
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But I thought that it was for crimes commited in the past, and the crimes being commited in the present; I have yet to see the Bin Laden tape calling it against crimes commited in the future.

The concept of punishment for a suicide terrorist becomes one of collective punishment since they are not around to suffer the concequences, it is a good reason not to pursue it.
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I just think its the height or utter 'he cannot connect the dots' type thought. A few bad seeds come up with a plan to do something to america (yet let me stress....NOTHING has happened in 6 years, and NOTHING will probably happen in the next 6) so lets turn around and blow up something that oh a billion people worship just to show these few bad seeds a lesson not to mess with the U S A!!!! oooooooogAAAAAAAAAH!

And this man is elected? Faaaaaaaaark me!
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Interesting definition of nothing.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:18 AM   #52
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why? I'm not talking about Bali or the UK or Spain or anything, i'm talking about the united states. What terorrist attacks have happened since Sept 11th? YOu know for sure he ain't talking about anyone else but his own precious country there.
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What terorrist attacks have happened since Sept 11th?
anthrax?

sniper?
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Old 08-06-2007, 03:08 AM   #54
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Uhm.... not really were they? A few anthrax letters, mostly powder to scare people and some crazy AMERICAN CITIZENS shooting people. I don't think they qualify.
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(yet let me stress....NOTHING has happened in 6 years, and NOTHING will probably happen in the next 6)


and those of us who live in cities that are under legitimate threat -- NYC, DC, London, Paris, Madrid, Rome, LA -- don't share your optimism.

i agree with you disagreement of many of the tactics of the current administration, and i agree with your assessment of this administration's need to swing their dicks in the breeze, but i don't agree that there isn't a legitimate threat from islamist terrorism, a threat that has been exacerbated by this administration's incompetence.

and Americans -- especially those in said urban areas -- felt very deeply for the Londoners and Madridians and the Aussies killed in each respective attack.

everyone agrees that this particular Congressman is an idiot. but let's not use that as proof that everyone who thinks that, yes, the world is a dangerous place is likewise an idiot.
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Uhm.... not really were they? A few anthrax letters, mostly powder to scare people
if that is the impression you got

then you missed it completely
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Well then what was the anthrax thing? Not a whole lot ever came of it. If it was a "terrorist" attack, it was pretty half-assed.
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and every time i step on the Metro, i hear a kindly voice telling me that, if i see an unattended item, i should alert someone.

honestly folks, the threat is real. trumped up, politically manipulated, used by bad people to further their power. all that is true.

and so is this:

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and every time i step on the Metro, i hear a kindly voice telling me that, if i see an unattended item, i should alert someone.
I heard those same warnings in London in 1977. It shames me that my country has conducted itself in such a way to be in the same situation.

Wouldn't it be more prudent to examine the causes of this behavior as well as the symptoms?

And for the record, Steve was in London that day. When the airline agent assured me he'd made his flight for Prague, he was mildly surprised when I broke down.
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i'm a little bit more leery than you to put the blame for the possibility of a bombing of public transportation squarely on the shoulders of the US. while the occupation of Iraq has clearly made us less safe, there are people who want me dead regardless of the international actions of the US. however, i do agree with addressing the causes of said behavior, though we need to guard against the symptoms.

i do think it will happen again, regardless.
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