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Old 12-04-2006, 07:54 PM   #106
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No joke.
Chavez is a socialist but you love him. One of the main reasons we went into Vietnam was because of France.
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Old 12-04-2006, 08:00 PM   #107
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Apparently if they aren't magic they are useless.

I'm out of here, this discussion is useless.
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Old 12-04-2006, 08:32 PM   #108
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Chavez is a socialist but you love him. One of the main reasons we went into Vietnam was because of France.
What?? We love Chavez? Europe didn't want the US to enter WWII?


Oy. We've got spell check and grammar check in our browsers and word processing programs. Someone needs to develop FactCheck™.


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Old 12-04-2006, 08:34 PM   #109
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FactCheck. Now there's some intelligence to come out of this thread! I like it.
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Old 12-04-2006, 09:29 PM   #111
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Lets all laugh at me. hahahhaahahahhaahahahahha

But I have said Chavez is a nutcase who just won and is trying to make future elections. Another Castro I say.

Seriously no one has showed me anything good the UN has done. The UN can stop wars you say but the Genocides continue. Look at Darfur, even if you put them there. all there going to do is write down and report what the militias and gov't troops are doing behind the backs of the world and the treaty.


great scene in team america, world police. ( go ahead and laugh at me) but seriously even if that happened to Blix nothing would happen.
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Chavez is a socialist but you love him. One of the main reasons we went into Vietnam was because of France.
Who, me, love Chavez? Chavez annoys me, but he doesn't annoy me half as much as he does Bush, and that's gotten him points all around the globe. There are people who get a buzz off of annoying Bush or anyone who annoys him. Someone from Belfast posted a salute to Chavez on one of my U2 discussion lists just this morning for pissing off Bush. Chavez mainly annoys me as having a nasty habit for suppressing hostile media in Venezuela. His people love him, though. He must be doing something right. You're right about Viet Nam and France. If France hadn't thrown out the 1954 elections the whole Viet Nam mess wouldn't have happened would it?
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But I have said Chavez is a nutcase who just won and is trying to make future elections. Another Castro I say.
Chavez has nothing to do with this. You brought Chavez into this with a completely false accusation...


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Seriously no one has showed me anything good the UN has done.
You have, you just chose to ignore them. Little research, I know you haven't done any for you wouldn't be calling them a government or say they have an army.
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Jesus Christ there a world government who makes desicions on putting sanctions sending armys to occupy land to make sure it does not get out of hand or to supposedly stop wars.
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The UN is not a government! They may have certain attributes of a government at times, but they are not themselves a government of any kind.
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Jesus Christ there a world government who makes desicions on putting sanctions sending armys to occupy land to make sure it does not get out of hand or to supposedly stop wars.
DO RESEARCH!!!
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Do you understand what a government is, Justin?
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The UN is not a government! They may have certain attributes of a government at times, but they are not themselves a government of any kind.
And that is a very good thing allowed only because of nations veto; the UN trying to wrest control of the internet is but one example of this organisation overstepping it's bounds.
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Jesus Christ there a world government who makes desicions on putting sanctions sending armys to occupy land to make sure it does not get out of hand or to supposedly stop wars.
UN is by nature bound to the choices of the national governments. It is not the failure of UN as an institution that the peacekeepers couldnt stop what happened in Rwanda, it is the failure of those nations who sent too few troops with a limited mandate (such as not engaging in combat unless directly attacked).

Just to put and end your endless rant about Un being a government and having an army, UN does NOT have an army, it is the forces volunteered by member states that form UN peacekeeping forces, and they are NOT a government, because.. well the UN itself doesn't have a political will, the national governments do.

Anyway, do not blame the UN for the failures in Sudan, Rwanda or elsewhere. United Nations is in essence merely a tool for global policy making, and that policy comes from the national governments. Lay the blame where it is due, if we are talking about the Security Council, for instance, the 5 countries with veto power are good places to start. Since all prospective decisions have to be acceptable to the permanent 5, their choices set the tone of the debate. Since dumbasses like Bolton are incapable of employing diplomacy to get decisions through, and US has had a wanton disregard for UN decisions lately, US is no longer a credible voice in the UN.

Lay the blame on your own government for being so unfamiliar to the ways of diplomacy, not the United Nations. And for god's sake, please stop calling the UN 'a government' 'an army' or whatever.
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