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Old 12-04-2006, 01:20 PM   #46
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:27 PM   #47
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Fuck the U.N. a worthless organization of thugs who pat each other on the back for doing a good job of nothing. Relocate them somewhere else. I want the UN out of the US.
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Thank God Bolton is gone - what a douchebag.

Justin, far be it for me to lecture you on international relations...but how many World Wars have we had since the formation of the United Nations?

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Thank God Bolton is gone - what a douchebag.

Justin, far be it for me to lecture you on international relations...but how many World Wars have we had since the formation of the United Nations?
None but how many genocides have they let go?????????? Alot.

They favored Hamas and Syria during the Israel, Lebenon Conflict instead of going after both sides.

Plus I could see another WW happening soon anyways. They'll be to busy writing letters of complaint to those nations and send a crappy internation peacekeeping force. The same force who allowed Hamas militants to hide in the bunkers and bases and launch mortors at israelie troops.
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None but how many genocides have they let go?????????? Alot.

They favored Hamas and Syria during the Israel, Lebenon Conflict instead of going after both sides.

Plus I could see another WW happening soon anyways. They'll be to busy writing letters of complaint to those nations and send a crappy internation peacekeeping force. The same force who allowed Hamas militants to hide in the bunkers and bases and launch mortors at israelie troops.
You're looking at the UN as some of miracle cure for international relations - it's not. Think of it as more of a sieve that all the political angst of its members can be drained through - it's a moderating body that allows cooler heads to prevail.

They write letters of complaint because when you start dropping troops in far-off places around the world people start taking exception to it (see article 'War on Terror').

It's not a perfect international organization, and there is no excuse to let genocides go by, but at heart nations are looking out for their self-interest. The US didn't do anything about Darfur because it didn't have any interests there, and frankly Europe didn't either.
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Ok so then tell me why we should we even have a UN if no one cares if they have no interest in that country? When it comes time to care, then we could alway muster countries to join in. But to have a 24x7 piece of crap organization such as the UN why bother. If there is one thing I hate, it's the UN.

Kofi Annan should have been removed after his son and the UN accepted bribes from Saddam.
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Fuck the U.N. a worthless organization of thugs who pat each other on the back for doing a good job of nothing. Relocate them somewhere else. I want the UN out of the US.
You and Bolton can start a club.

Is the UN free of curruption? No, but how much worse would we be without them?

I think you should take another look at what the UN is and what they've done.

Do they need some adjustments? Sure...
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The UN is here because having any kind of international mediating body is better than nothing at all. The United Nations is pretty damn useless at times, sure, they have scandals like every other organization (see Oil for Food), but they are there to provide a forum for countries to discuss conflicts reasonably without irrationally ejaculating troops on conflict hot spots around the world.
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You're missing the point - the UN is not a military organization like NATO.

Honestly you have to come up with some points besides "I hate the UN" because you can't get away with that in a political discussion forum
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Honestly you have to come up with some points besides "I hate the UN" because you can't get away with that in a political discussion forum
You must be new to FYM.
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You must be new to FYM.
Oh sweet so I can just throw around close-minded, unsupported opinions?



I am going to have fun here.
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You have Rwanda, The Congo, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, China, North Korea, Iran etc... who are problems in this world. What does the UN do............................................ Nothing, except lets talk and if they dont like it they leave the table continuing the genocides and destruction.

BVS your welcome to join the club if you want. You too Canadiens The UN is a social club where the dine in luxery while the problems there supposed to handle continue. Please show me the good they have done.
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I am going to have fun here.
Now you're getting it.
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You have Rwanda, The Congo, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, China, North Korea, Iran etc... who are problems in this world. What does the UN do............................................ Nothing, except lets talk and if they dont like it they leave the table continuing the genocides and destruction.
You're not getting it...


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The UN is a social club where the dine in luxery while the problems there supposed to handle continue. Please show me the good they have done.
Just do a little research.
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