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Old 09-07-2002, 04:08 PM   #1
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Blair's Support for War

I would like to know what people thought of this. Big surprise? No surprise?

What are the implications for the future, will the rest of Europe follow in Support, or is that far-fetched?

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Tony Blair is a dirty $$$ whore .
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Not a big surprise at all. Will the rest of Europe follow along? Unfortunately probably not given their poor history and record on these things in the past.
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Tony Blair= A rigteous cat..and solid leader

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tony = you and whos army
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He's given his support on the condition that the US goes through the UN. Same thing the Aussie PM told Bush on Friday.

If it has to be done, it's the right way to go about it.

Whether anyone else joins in depends on how Bush handles the UN and how good any evidence is. Apparently it's weak at best, but we'll see.

I'll still support it if the argument 'for' is good enough, but its still nowhere near good enough. Bush still doesn't have even enough support from his own people, not even his own father, and I believe Blair is having trouble convincing his own party, so... dunno. It still looks and smells dodgy to me.
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Tony Blair is a dirty $$$ whore .
very intelligent comment, deserves...

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[B]He's given his support on the condition that the US goes through the UN. Same thing the Aussie PM told Bush on Friday.

If it has to be done, it's the right way to go about it.
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That is beter than our goverment, they do not even need a UN aprovel to support the US.
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,and I believe Blair is having trouble convincing his own part

Very true, STING2. In fact, 90% of the Labour government completely OPPOSE Bush's war on Iraq and Blair's support. That's not a sizeable majority, its almost the entire party, with only a few of Tony's cronies supporting him. Evidently, Tony Blair has NO grounds to support Bush, and has no democratic right. Not only is the Labour government against him, the majority of the country voted on a programme last night AGAINST getting involved the war. The percentage I think was 76% of those who voted.

Its not that I'm against the war against Saddam (which I am, anyway) its the fury I have for Blair's sheer audacity to ignore his own bleeding government. 'A war to restore democracy... with the destruction of our own' seems to be the policy here.

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Oh, and Z_Edge; will you kindly refrain from posting huge photos of warplanes, at least in THIS thread. There was no anti-American sentiment, no anti-American comment that warranted something that only ends in people flaming each other.

Please, don't do it again in this thread.

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anti-Americanism seems alll the justification it takes for military action these days.
Bush is like a stupid little kid in a playground, he and Blair are like small kids with big mouths and big brothers, two small men in this world with a worrying amount of power.
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I agree with Anthony - I'm disgusted that Blair is ignoring the Parliamentary Labour Party, the Labour Party as a whole and the general public. 71% of the public say no war on Iraq, countless CLPs are passing motions saying no war on Iraq and Labour MPs are demanding a debate on Iraq which Blair is refusing to hold. Britain claims to be democractic and yet 71% of people say they don't want their leader to do something and yet he wants to go ahead and do it regardless of their wishes.

It's horrible to see the leader of the Labour Party supporting this war mongering. It's what I'd expect from IDS and his Tory cronies but the Labour Party is supposed to be a social democratic party. Blair is going have a rough ride at party conference if he goes ahead with this attack. I've even heard a number of people in the party saying they think it'll be the end of his leadership if he goes ahead with it.
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I think Blair will go down in history as a leader and not a poll-reader.

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I think Blair will go down in history as a leader and not a poll-reader.

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I don't think leaders should rely on polling data for every decision they make (like a certain president who took a poll to find out where the public would prefer him to go on vacation...) but it's a lot more serious in this case - Blair isn't only opposed by 70+% of the British public but also by a majority of Labour Party members and a huge section of the Parliamentary Labour Party. He's not just ignoring a one-off poll which opposes war, he's ignoring anyone who speaks out against war, surely it's not a good idea for a leader to simply ignore anyone who opposes him.

I think he'll go down in history as a leader who attempted to destroy the Labour Party, and one who worked hand-in-glove with what Gerald Kaufman MP described as "the most intellectually backward American President of my political life."
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