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Old 02-06-2007, 08:02 PM   #1
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Bizarre Love Triangle

Every time i think of you
I feel a shot from my bb gun
It's no problem of mine but it's a problem I find
Wearing a space diaper on my behind
There's no sense in telling me
I'm totally psycho over Oefelein
But that's the way that it goes
And it's what nobody hopefully knows
That's my pepper spray up your nose
Every time I see you launching
I get down on my knees and spray
I'm waiting for that final moment
Where they'll find you by the freeway


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Old 02-06-2007, 08:17 PM   #2
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So they aren't superhuman beings without flaws, nice to know.

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Old 02-06-2007, 10:03 PM   #3
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deviant heterosexuals.
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:45 PM   #4
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Call me a fuddy-duddy, but I don't think this is funny. Yeah, it's soap-operaish, but what might have happened if she'd succeeded in her plan? What if her plan had gone horribly wrong, and the other woman had died? Would there be snide remarks then?

Eh, I'm usually the first to snark, but something about this one creeps me out in a non-funny way.
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:53 AM   #5
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Originally posted by Irvine511
deviant heterosexuals.
The good people of Washington are trying to do something about that.

Proposal Would Require Straights To Have Kids Or Marriages Would Be Voided
by The Associated Press

Posted: February 5, 2007 - 9:00 pm ET

(Olympia, Washington) Proponents of same-sex marriage have introduced a ballot measure that would require heterosexual couples to have a child within three years or have their marriages annulled.

The Washington Defense of Marriage Alliance acknowledged on its Web site that the initiative was "absurd" but hoped the idea prompts "discussion about the many misguided assumptions" underlying a state Supreme Court ruling that upheld a ban on same-sex marriage.

The measure would require couples to prove they can have children to get a marriage license. Couples who do not have children within three years could have their marriages annulled.

All other marriages would be defined as "unrecognized," making those couples ineligible for marriage benefits.

The paperwork for the measure was submitted last month. Supporters must gather at least 224,800 signatures by July 6 to put it on the November ballot.

The group said the proposal was aimed at "social conservatives who have long screamed that marriage exists for the sole purpose of procreation."

Cheryl Haskins, executive director of Allies for Marriage and Children, said opponents of same-sex marriage want only to preserve marriage as the union of a man and a woman.

"Some of those unions produce children and some of them don't," she said.
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:07 AM   #6
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I don't think it's funny either. This woman clearly had some sort of break or she had problems all along. Yes they are only human, and emotions can get the better of all of us-to a greater or lesser extent. Obviously she took it to extremes-or she has a physical or psychological problem.

I'm just waiting for the first person to use this to say that women shouldn't be astronauts. I don't think I'll have to wait too long. Of course men are also capable of this behavior.
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:28 AM   #7
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The Washington Defense of Marriage Alliance acknowledged on its Web site that the initiative was "absurd"
Asinine works better for me.
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:29 AM   #8
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There's another thread here about that topic
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:08 AM   #9
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I think it sad, because obviously, she will never, ever be allowed in space again. Which is a tragic waste of talent, experience, education and training.
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:34 AM   #10
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I saw another similiar one. In Belgium, a girl cut the parachute cords of her romantic rival and fellow skydiver in midair so she'd crash to her doom, and she did.
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If it were a man who had a breakdown, the response would be different. I think of the Duke students, who have been raked through the coals. They were convicted before the facts were out. It all makes me sad.
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I always thought that people who want to go to space are kinda odd anyway
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Old 02-08-2007, 12:08 AM   #13
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If it were a man who had a breakdown, the response would be different. I think of the Duke students, who have been raked through the coals. They were convicted before the facts were out. It all makes me sad.
And she hasn't been already judged? Are you kidding? She will forever be "that homicidal fruitcake astronaut chick" at the very least and if she doesn't get convicted of anything it will only be because she was found insane and will spend time in a mental institution. Whatever happens, her life is permanently changed.
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Who knows? I am curious as to what the reasons are, but maybe we'll never know.

By RASHA MADKOUR and DAVID CRARY, Associated Press Writers

Anyone who's read Tom Wolfe's "The Right Stuff" or seen the movie based on it knows about the mental and emotional stresses astronauts face as they train for space travel. But those trying to explain the apparent breakdown of Lisa Nowak say the pressure can be even higher for female astronauts, who not only face the same work stresses as their male counterparts but often face high expectations at home.

"They made more sacrifices than the 'Right Stuff' guys," said Dr. Jon Clark, a former NASA flight surgeon who lost his wife, astronaut Laurel Clark, in the 2003 Columbia disaster. "They have to balance two careers — to be a mom and wife and an astronaut. ... You don't come home at night, like most of the male astronauts, and have everything ready for you."

Clark said Nowak, charged with attempted murder and attempted kidnapping in what police depict as a love triangle involving a fellow astronaut, provided invaluable support to his family after his wife's death, even when it cost her time with her own husband and three children.

Nowak's background — high school valedictorian, Naval Academy graduate, test pilot — seemed to equip her for the challenge. Yet as she and some of her acquaintances acknowledged, the stresses on her and her family were extraordinarily intense.

On Wednesday, transformed from space hero to criminal suspect, Nowak returned to Houston for a medical assessment.

She was met on the tarmac by police and escorted into a waiting squad car after her release on bail. Her head was covered by a jacket. She faced a medical exam at Johnson Space Center.

NASA said it would revamp its psychological screening process in light of Nowak's arrest. The review will look at how astronauts are screened for psychological problems and whether Nowak's dealings with co-workers signaled complications.

Nowak has a teenage son and 5-year-old twin girls with her husband, Richard, who works for a NASA contractor. The couple separated a few weeks ago after 19 years of marriage.

"She was the epitome of managing a very hectic career, making sacrifices to accommodate her family," Clark said in a telephone interview. "All those stresses can conspire to be overwhelming. ... Clearly she suffered a lot of mental anguish.

"There is a lot of marital stress in the astronaut corps in general — a huge amount," Clark said. "It's not unheard of for things to change into relationships that are beyond professional."

Clark expressed empathy with Richard Nowak.

"He was a real low-key, go-with-the-flow, unobtrusive person," Clark said. "You almost have to be to survive in the realm. ... It was hard on our marriage to have my wife gone all the time, and eventually have her career surpass mine."

Lisa Nowak grew up in Rockville, Md., where she was co-valedictorian and a member of the track team in high school. She graduated from the Naval Academy in 1985. The class officers of her year said Wednesday in a statement released by Bryan Caisse, the class secretary, that Nowak was "a great classmate and friend."

"She never hesitated to lend a hand or assist someone in need. She has been an incredible role model as a Naval Officer, astronaut and mother, and has shared her success with many others," the statement said.

Nowak received a master's degree in aeronautical engineering, flew as a test pilot in the mid-1990s while caring for an infant son, and became a full-fledged astronaut in 1998.

"It's definitely a challenge to do the flying and take care of even one child and do all the other things you have to do. But I learned that you can do it," she said in a recent interview with Ladies Home Journal.

Last July, in the climax of her career, she flew on the space shuttle Discovery, helping operate its robotic arm and winning praise for her performance.

However, there were signs of turmoil in her life.

In November, a neighbor reported hearing the sounds of dishes being thrown inside Nowak's Houston home. And she had begun to form a relationship with William Oefelein, a fellow astronaut and father of two whose own marriage ended in divorce in 2005.

Police said Nowak told them the relationship was "more than a working relationship but less than a romantic relationship."

Charlene Davis, the mother of Oefelein's ex-wife, Michaella, said Wednesday that Nowak — although friends with Oefelein for years — had nothing to do with his marriage breakup.

"I think there were a lot of bad choices being made, and Lisa just made a horrible one," Davis said in a telephone interview. "And I just feel sorry for her. What the hell was she thinking?"

The final unraveling came this week when police arrested Nowak for allegedly trying to kidnap Colleen Shipman, an Air Force captain from Florida. Police said Nowak believed Shipman was her rival for Oefelein's affections.

Police charged Nowak with attempting to murder Shipman based on weapons and other items found with Nowak or in her car: pepper spray, a BB-gun, a new steel mallet, knife and rubber tubing. Nowak's lawyer, Donald Lykkebak, has said she only wanted to talk to Shipman.

Those who know Nowak away from the high-pressure atmosphere of NASA were stunned.

"I was very surprised... She always seemed very normal to me," said Candis Silva, who lives three houses down from the Nowaks. "She was a good role model for our daughters."

Thomas Nagy, a Palo Alto, Calif., psychologist who has studied the stresses facing dual-career couples, hesitated to offer any specific diagnosis of Nowak, but said such seemingly desperate acts could result from a chronic personality disorder or from a period of high stress that clouds one's judgment.

"When people are in that role of trying to do everything to the Nth degree, they don't get enough sleep, they don't do enough activities that are fun, they don't get enough exercise," he said.

"If we ignore those because we're trying to do it all, we pay a price — more anxiety, more depression."

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