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Old 04-03-2005, 10:51 AM   #1
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Birth control, priests and marriage

In the wake of the Pope's death, there has been a lot of talk, maybe, maybe too much talk, about how his legacy will be marred by his conservative views. Thought I respect everyone's views on these sensitive issues, it really bothers me and gives me more reason to view Catholics as hypocrites.


On Birth control:
The church says that birth control is wrong. People disagree, in light of the modernization of the world. Okay, fine. But the reason why the church feels it's wrong is because it's a sin. You are denying a life, in the eyes of the church. To the church, correct me if I am wrong, but the only purpose of sex is pro-creation. That's it. God gave us the ability to have sex in order to pro-create. Sex should not be viewed as something to indulge in one's sexual desires or to have an orgasm. I think that is what the church has always preached. True, human beings are horny by nature. But they shouldn't use sex to "get off", only to pro-create. Sex is an expression of two people's emotional love for each other; and the end result should be to have a baby, not to cum because it feels good (that actually goes without saying).

On priests and marriage:
The church feels that priests should not marry. I think the reason is because priests are supposed to emulate Christ. Christ was the son of God who didn't have any sexual urges or desires. He was put on this earth to show human beings the "light," to perform miracles; to spread the word of peace and love among mankind. Not to fall in love and have sex and express his sexural desires. That is what I think the church interprets Christ's life. Thus, priests should not marry, but instead emulate Christ. Again, there is no proof that Jesus did have sex or not, so we will never know.

Okay, I'll stop.

But the point is, all Catholics should try to lead as sin-free a life as possible. That is why Pope John steadfastly preached these concepts about birth control and sex. The Pope could not stray from these philosophies. The Pope could not change them one bit. Otherwise, the Pope would compromise what God says we should all do: and that is DO NOT SIN.

If you do commit these sins, there is hope. You can confess. That is the beauty of Christianity. The act of asking for forgiveness and go out and sin no more.

In a nutshell, if you want to have sex, wait till you're married. And when you do have sex, make sure it's because you want to have a baby, not because if feels good.

Again, all of this is my take on the Pope's and the church's positions on these issues. I could be wrong and please correct me if I am.
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"marred" by conservative views?

i'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.

i'm not conservative myself, but an opinion is an opinion and everyone's entitled to it.

i think i hate just about everyone who has a political opinion. there is no middle ground anywhere. the left is stereotypically arrogant and all-knowing, while the right simply KNOWS it's right.

which is worse?

i hate them all. people are the worst.

and your post is so full of holes, it's not even funny.
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"marred" by conservative views?

i'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.

i'm not conservative myself, but an opinion is an opinion and everyone's entitled to it.

i think i hate just about everyone who has a political opinion. there is no middle ground anywhere. the left is stereotypically arrogant and all-knowing, while the right simply KNOWS it's right.

which is worse?

i hate them all. people are the worst.

and your post is so full of holes, it's not even funny.
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In a nutshell, if you want to have sex, wait till you're married. And when you do have sex, make sure it's because you want to have a baby, not because if feels good.


Everybody should have to sign this pledge.
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Everybody should have to sign this pledge.
i'd love to slap my john hancock on that one.
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The Church's position on birth control is based on the notion that the purpose of marriage is procreation. This is an ancient concept. There is much disagreement on this, towards the end of the Middle Ages the idea came in that it's for companionship as well. The rule for celibacy in the clergy came from the notion that the priest should concern himself with spiritual matters only. This is quite possibly too idealistic. Look at all of the out-of-wedlock kids born to priests and their mistresses over the centuries! Whew!
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And when you do have sex, make sure it's because you want to have a baby, not because if feels good.
There is no Biblical basis for this position.
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Why do I even bother reading your posts about the Catholic church and Catholics in general? I should know by now to avoid reading them.

It saddens me that you don't even know me and yet you have labeled me a hypocrite because I am a Catholic.

Oh well. I will let those who have the patience to debate this topic with you.

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