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Old 10-26-2005, 01:01 PM   #16
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well, good bye, but the point is that there isn't a debate. the two are not comparable, and it would be irresponsible for anyone not to speak out when the two are equated.
The reality is: there is a debate. The fact you don't want one is a separate issue. It's a bigger world out there.
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Old 10-26-2005, 01:07 PM   #17
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The reality is: there is a debate. The fact you don't want one is a separate issue. It's a bigger world out there.


now this post, my friend, is one that isn't worthy of a response.
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Old 10-26-2005, 01:22 PM   #19
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if you only knew how much i actually have to live the dumbing down of math and science education out of "sensitivity" to the home schooling market.

that's where my visceral reaction to this comes from.

i see kids getting bad, watered down, equivocated information.

it makes the home schoolers happy, and it makes my company happy because the product is purchased because it spoon feeds qualified information to the narrow-minded.

it is the children who lose.
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Old 10-26-2005, 01:32 PM   #20
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Yes, there is a debate. It belongs in religion or alternately, philosophy classes.

Get it the hell out of biology class, biochemistry class, immunology class, bacteriology class, virology class and so on.
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are we not all supposed to be so open minded but when someone disagrees with our opinion how we become so defensive. What a benign society it would be if we could not disagree. If not bird flu something else will get you so who gives a shit. We all die some day. Can anyone disagree with that point? Oh I suppose re-encarnation could but I am not offended.
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:25 PM   #22
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are we not all supposed to be so open minded but when someone disagrees with our opinion how we become so defensive. What a benign society it would be if we could not disagree. If not bird flu something else will get you so who gives a shit. We all die some day. Can anyone disagree with that point? Oh I suppose re-encarnation could but I am not offended.


evolution is perhaps the best supported scientific theory.

creatinism is not even an opinion, it is a belief/superstition.

saying that someone is factually incorrect when they are is the responsible thing to do.

a teacher would not be doing her job if she allowed children to hold incorrect beliefs in their heads (i.e., "London is the capital of Finland"). something that is factually incorrect is not an opinion, nor should it be treated as such.
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i think china and india are cheering
Uh-I think China & India are sweating because the migratory bird paths of that area is going to spread avian influenza across both of them. And before you think they are above religous supersitions, why not look into one of the main ways A.I. is passing to humans in rural SE Asia (I'll give you a hint-it inolves a drink made of duck blood).
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What does that have to do with anything? Do they distribute this duck blood drink to public schoolchildren and make them drink it?

I believe Irvine was referring to who will have the competitive edge in the sci/tech jobs market of the future, not to who is most likely to get bird flu.
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