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Old 09-23-2006, 01:34 AM   #1
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Old 09-23-2006, 09:53 AM   #2
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"At least I tried"?

I would have to see the whole interview, but that's just lame.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/22/clinton-fox/

Today, President Bill Clinton taped an interview with Fox News’ Chris Wallace, which is scheduled to be aired Sunday. He was told the interview would focus on his nonpartisan efforts to raise over $7 billion to combat the world’s biggest problems.

Early in the interview, Wallace attempted to smear Clinton with the same kind of misinformation contained in ABC’s Path to 9/11. Clinton was having none of it.

ThinkProgress has obtained a transcript of the interview. Here are some highlights –

Wallace repeats Path to 9/11 misinformation, Clinton fights back:

WALLACE: When we announced that you were going to be on Fox News Sunday, I got a lot of email from viewers, and I got to say I was surprised most of them wanted me to ask you this question. Why didn’t you do more to put Bin Laden and al Qaeda out of business when you were President? There’s a new book out which I suspect you’ve read called the Looming Tower. And it talks about how the fact that when you pulled troops out of Somalia in 1993, Bin Laden said “I have seen the frailty and the weakness and the cowardice of US troops.” Then there was the bombing of the embassies in Africa and the attack on the USS Cole.

CLINTON: OK..

WALLACE: …may I just finish the question sir. And after the attack, the book says, Bin Laden separated his leaders because he expected an attack and there was no response. I understand that hindsight is 20/20.

CLINTON: No let’s talk about…

WALLACE: …but the question is why didn’t you do more, connect the dots and put them out of business?

CLINTON: OK, let’s talk about it. I will answer all of those things on the merits but I want to talk about the context of which this arises. I’m being asked this on the FOX network…ABC just had a right wing conservative on the Path to 9/11 falsely claim that it was based on the 9/11 Commission report with three things asserted against me that are directly contradicted by the 9/11 Commission report. I think it’s very interesting that all the conservative Republicans who now say that I didn’t do enough, claimed that I was obsessed with Bin Laden. All of President Bush’s neocons claimed that I was too obsessed with finding Bin Laden when they didn’t have a single meeting about Bin Laden for the nine months after I left office. All the right wingers who now say that I didn’t do enough said that I did too much. Same people.

Clinton takes on Fox News bias:

WALLACE: Do you think you did enough sir?

CLINTON: No, because I didn’t get him.

WALLACE: Right…

CLINTON: But at least I tried. That’s the difference in me and some, including all the right wingers who are attacking me now. They ridiculed me for trying. They had eight months to try and they didn’t…I tried. So I tried and failed. When I failed I left a comprehensive anti-terror strategy and the best guy in the country, Dick Clarke… So you did FOX’s bidding on this show. You did you nice little conservative hit job on me. But what I want to know..

WALLACE: Now wait a minute sir…

CLINTON:…

WALLACE: I asked a question. You don’t think that’s a legitimate question?

CLINTON: It was a perfectly legitimate question but I want to know how many people in the Bush administration you asked this question of. I want to know how many people in the Bush administration you asked: Why didn’t you do anything about the Cole? I want to know how many you asked: Why did you fire Dick Clarke? I want to know…

WALLACE: We asked…

CLINTON:…

WALLACE: Do you ever watch Fox News Sunday sir?

CLINTON: I don’t believe you ask them that.

WALLACE: We ask plenty of questions of…

CLINTON: You didn’t ask that did you? Tell the truth.

WALLACE: About the USS Cole?

CLINTON: Tell the truth.

WALLACE: I…with Iraq and Afghanistan there’s plenty of stuff to ask.

CLINTON: Did you ever ask that? You set this meeting up because you were going to get a lot of criticism from your viewers because Rupert Murdoch is going to get a lot of criticism from your viewers for supporting my work on climate change. And you came here under false pretenses and said that you’d spend half the time talking about…

WALLACE: [laughs]

CLINTON: You said you’d spend half the time talking about what we did out there to raise $7 billion dollars plus over three days from 215 different commitments. And you don’t care.

Clinton on his priorities and the Bush administration priorities:

CLINTON: What did I do? I worked hard to try and kill him. I authorized a finding for the CIA to kill him. We contracted with people to kill him. I got closer to killing him than anybody has gotten since. And if I were still president we’d have more than 20,000 troops there trying to kill him. Now I never criticized President Bush and I don’t think this is useful. But you know we do have a government that thinks Afghanistan is 1/7 as important as Iraq. And you ask me about terror and Al Qaeda with that sort of dismissive theme when all you have to do is read Richard Clarke’s book to look at what we did in a comprehensive systematic way to try to protect the country against terror. And you’ve got that little smirk on your face. It looks like you’re so clever…

WALLACE: [Laughs]

CLINTON: I had responsibility for trying to protect this country. I tried and I failed to get Bin Laden. I regret it but I did try. And I did everything I thought I responsibly could. The entire military was against sending special forces into Afghanistan and refueling by helicopter and no one thought we could do it otherwise…We could not get the CIA and the FBI to certify that Al Qaeda was responsible while I was President. Until I left office. And yet I get asked about this all the time and they had three times as much time to get him as I did and no one ever asks them about this. I think that’s strange.
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Did anyone watch that interview?

That was really a moment. I kept waiting for him to say "I never had sexual relations with that man, Mr. Bin Laden I love how Drudge called it "purple faced rage"



Following today's buzz generating conversation with Bill Clinton, Chris Wallace shared some of his post-interview thoughts with FishbowlDC:

I was delighted to get the chance to interview former President Clinton. This was the first one-on-one sitdown he's ever given "Fox News Sunday" during our 10 years on the air.

The groundrules were simple--15 minutes--to be divided evenly between questions about the Clinton Global Initiative and anything else I wanted to ask.

I intended to keep to the groundrules. In fact--I prepared 10 questions--5 on the CGI and 5 on other issues.

I began the interview with 2 questions about Mr. Clinton's commitment to humanitarian causes. His answers were cogent and good-humored.

Then--I asked him about his Administration's record in fighting terror--fully intending to come back to CGI later (as indeed I did).

I asked what I thought was a non-confrontational question about whether he could have done more to "connect the dots and really go after al Qaeda."

I was utterly surprised by the tidal wave of details--emotion--and political attacks that followed.

The President was clearly stung by any suggestion that he had not done everything he could to get bin Laden. He attacked right-wingers--accused me of a "conservative hit job"--and even spun a theory I still don't understand that somehow Fox was trying to cover up the fact that NewsCorp. chief Rupert Murdoch was supporting his Global Initiative. I still have no idea what set him off.

Former President Clinton is a very big man. As he leaned forward--wagging his finger in my face--and then poking the notes I was holding--I felt as if a mountain was coming down in front of me.

The President said I had a smirk. Actually--it was sheer wonder at what I was witnessing.

I tried repeatedly to adhere to the ground rules--to move the President along--and back to the CGI. But he wanted to keep talking about his record fighting terror.

When it became clear he wanted to throw out the ground rules--then I just went with the flow of the interview.
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This is an odd moment for him, he's usually better at keeping his composure.


Regardless, I miss having a president who can have a intelligent conversation that flows so easily.
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A longer clip of the video. Yes I miss his intelligence and ability to articulate, but on the other hand he just looked so defensive and it smacked of the VRWC again. I hate to say it, but it was almost Bushlike.

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A longer clip of the video. Yes I miss his intelligence and ability to articulate, but on the other hand he just looked so defensive and it smacked of the VRWC again. I hate to say it, but it was almost Bushlike.

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But most "non Fox" viewers know/assume a Fox agenda, so Bill getting upset like that was only giving them (the regular Fox viewer) what they wanted-wasn't it? Wouldn't it have been more effective to just answer the question factually? I'm sure if he had to do it all over again that's what he would have done.

The regular Fox viewer who sees everything from a certain political and ideological perspective, and actually believes the "we report, you decide", would just think he is covering up his mistakes by blaming Fox and its' agenda.

It would be extremely naive on his part to think he could go on Fox and that they wouldn't ask him about that.
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Maybe he just reached his boiling point I just wish if he were going to lose his temper that he would have a better come back than "at least I tried"
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Dick Morris has become the anti-Pat Buchanan in so many ways since the sleeping giant - the American public - had a newfound awareness of Islamic Jihad.

"The president [Clinton] had yet to make a finding that it was OK to kill bin Laden. The reason he had not is that he did not yet know bin Laden's connection to the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. The reason he did not know that is that he did not fast-track the investigation.

A second time, we did fire missiles but alerted the Pakistani military to our plans and they tipped off bin Laden, and he escaped.

A third time, our plans to attack by missile were canceled, partially out of chagrin over having missed him before and partially because we had just bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade by mistake and were worried about being called trigger happy."
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Old 09-25-2006, 03:11 PM   #10
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Good for Bill. I had no problem with him losing his cool like that on national television.

Anyway, if my memory serves me correctly, every time Clinton did something to get Bin Laden or to retaliate on the attacks on US personnel, he was always accused by the right of doing it as a distraction because of the Lewinsky fiasco.

I'm only surprised Clinton didn't lash out sooner
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LOL @ " hit-job piece "

The guy flips out after a simple question is asked. Just shows how bad the other networks and journalists are, they rollover and play dead for him and refuse to ask him questions about his response (lack of response) to Bin Laden for 8 years.

He must have thought he was going on CBS where Ed Bradley or some other old hack would be his lapdog for an interview and throw him softballs, and do his dirtywork for him like they did for Kerry when they were forging military documents for him.

When Bubba's face went purple, it was not due to the simple question being posed, but rather the guilt of doing nothing for 8 years and the guilt of knowing his own inactions led to 3000 people dying needlessly, and now he tries to act as the victim and turn Wallace into the bad guy, fun to watch a habitual liar and sex offender flip out when confronted with the truth.
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Who was president when the twin towers came down?

Who actually flew the planes into the towers? It wasn't Bill Clinton.

Careful, babyface.
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When Bubba's face went purple, it was not due to the simple question being posed, but rather the guilt of doing nothing for 8 years and the guilt of knowing his own inactions led to 3000 people dying needlessly, and now he tries to act as the victim and turn Wallace into the bad guy, fun to watch a habitual liar and sex offender flip out when confronted with the truth.


what about not doing anything for 8 months, ending the weekly meetings that Clinton had about Bin Laden, igorning memos that said things such as "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Within the US," reverting back to a Cold War mentality, hiring a national security advisor who's area of expertise was the USSR (a country no longer in existence), the elevation of China into Public Enemy #1, firing Richard Clarke, not spending the $60bn it would take to make our ports secure, letting OBL go in the mountains of Tora Bora in late 2001 because resources were diverted to the unnecessary, foolish debacle that became the Iraq War?

i'd be pretty purple-faced about that.
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Anyway, if my memory serves me correctly, every time Clinton did something to get Bin Laden or to retaliate on the attacks on US personnel, he was always accused by the right of doing it as a distraction because of the Lewinsky fiasco.

Guilty!! Along with almost everyone else at the time.

Wag the dog was the mantra of the day!!
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It's the truth. Bill Clinton was trying to get bin Laden and he failed. It's as simple as that.
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