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Old 08-02-2005, 09:09 PM   #16
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That was a shocked not a smiley ~ I am not blindly partisan, I am a much more of a policy hack ~ the unfortunate situation is that there are no electable leaders who's policies I agree with altogether, I need a Frankensteins Monster of a politician.
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did you like michael badnarik (i think that's how you spell his hame) at all?
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Well....are they are any democrats here which would oppose a Biden-McCain nomination?
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I'd be more than thrilled with that
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did you like michael badnarik (i think that's how you spell his hame) at all?
Yeah see on social issues I broadly agree however there is a divergence on matters of foreign policy. Plus the fact that third party candidates are unelectale. I think that an electable moderate from either party with libertarian leanings but with a receptive political climate to get things done is ideal ~ now the odds of that occuring are very slight indeed so one is put in the position of giving minor support to people like Bush and the "compassionate conservative" bunch or for another example Tony Blair with CCTV cameras and national ID cards (I most certainly do not like either of those), europhilia and Kyoto madness (the Kyoto treaty in itself will not do a thing to stop global warming and it will inflict significant economic restrictions, I think that a technological solution - e.g. geosequestering of carbon dioxide - that accomidates industry and environment is ideal).
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Re: Re: Biden-McCain '08!!!!!

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Not going to happen! John McCain is a CONSERVATIVE.
Just like Lincoln Chafee?

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I'm not wild about McCain...

although, I'm just happy that Bush cannot be president ever again. That is unless he finds a way to change the constitution between now and then. I wouldnt put it past him.
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Leftist enthusiasm over McCain is further proof that Americans vote over image rather than substance. That aside, Biden has a very "presidential" image about him, so that should automatically make him more electable than robot Gore or weasly Kerry.

Since it comes down to image, if Biden goes up against Frist in 2008, Biden will have the upper hand, unless Frist somehow convinces America that he had a Vietnamese love child with Jane Fonda. Knowing the current state of the GOP and bigoted Southern voters, I wouldn't put it past the party.

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melon you are right about the image thing. Both Kerry and Gore are extremely intelligent men. However they didnt have enough appeal. Kinda sad how this world is all about image....
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although, I'm just happy that Bush cannot be president ever again. That is unless he finds a way to change the constitution between now and then. I wouldnt put it past him.
...or if Jeb somehow ascends to the oval office
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I don't want Biden to run. He's far to in the pocket of MultiNational Corps. And far to much a beltway insiderand too pro war. I would campaign against anyone who voted for the bankrupcty bill and or Cafta. Though I so think he's a great speaker.

McCain has lost my respect completely. He seems to have moderate views, but his rolling over when push comes to shove against those that personally disgrased him is appalling.
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Leftist enthusiasm over McCain is further proof that Americans vote over image rather than substance. That aside, Biden has a very "presidential" image about him, so that should automatically make him more electable than robot Gore or weasly Kerry.

Since it comes down to image, if Biden goes up against Frist in 2008, Biden will have the upper hand, unless Frist somehow convinces America that he had a Vietnamese love child with Jane Fonda. Knowing the current state of the GOP and bigoted Southern voters, I wouldn't put it past the party.

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I agree, too much politics is about "image" these days, not enough about substance. If it helps the Democrat next time I can't complain too much, however.
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for another example Tony Blair with CCTV cameras and national ID cards (I most certainly do not like either of those), europhilia
Your euro-bashing is getting a mite tiresome.

What did we ever do to deserve this?
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I don't want Biden to run. He's far to in the pocket of MultiNational Corps. And far to much a beltway insiderand too pro war.
Scarletwine has hit the nail on the head here.
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