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Old 06-06-2006, 10:27 AM   #16
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do you think such a definition is possible?

haven't people been slaughtering each other over this very definition for 2000 years?
Yes, a definition is simple and possible.

Slaughtering? An interesting way to summarize history. I think that just adds to the lack of understanding
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Yes, a definition is simple and possible.
Go for it. I'm curious.
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do you think such a definition is possible?

A definition of a Christian? To me, a Christian = someone who believes in God as Lord and Jesus Christ as Savior and acts in ways that emmulate and glorify Christ.

Maybe there's a better way to put it, but I believe a proper definition must define the action part, not just what someone believes/has faith in.
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Yes, a definition is simple and possible.

Slaughtering? An interesting way to summarize history. I think that just adds to the lack of understanding


would you like to tell that to, say, the Huguenots?

to name just one.

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and acts in ways that emmulate and glorify Christ.
Which leaves the floor wide open to the term so-called Christians.
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Which leaves the floor wide open to the term so-called Christians.
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so it's not so simple is it.

see, this is why people have been killing each other over stuff like this for 2000 years.
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so it's not so simple is it.

see, this is why people have been killing each other over stuff like this for 2000 years.
It's very simple to define, it's very difficult to actually follow through.
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It's very simple to define, it's very difficult to actually follow through.
Assuming everyone agrees with your definition.
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Assuming everyone agrees with your definition.


and this is the problem.

it's simple for some, not for other.

ultimately, whenever we work out a definition, the subtext becomes "i'm a better Christian than you are."
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Don't paint all Christians with the same brush.
Amen.
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The tied is turning. I firmly believe a new Christianity is emergning through all the bull crap that's out there.


And get this -- it's doing so by getting back to the Bible.


Imagine that.


I'm convinced your right--I remember the last time it got this bad (during the Reagan Administration) when the "Moral Majority" and suchlike were around--the extreme right wing conservative fundys actually got louder, more obnoxious, and worse as their power and influence waned.

The same thing is happening now...it's like deja vue They bring themselves down
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Assuming everyone agrees with your definition.
If you only take part of the answer, you can always come up with a different definition.
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would you like to tell that to, say, the Huguenots?

to name just one.

Une foi, un loi, un roi!
A select historical example is really not the basis for a pattern of "slaughter".
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A definition of a Christian? To me, a Christian = someone who believes in God as Lord and Jesus Christ as Savior and acts in ways that emmulate and glorify Christ.

Maybe there's a better way to put it, but I believe a proper definition must define the action part, not just what someone believes/has faith in.
I think you hit the two key elements:

a personal faith in Christ and evidence of that faith exhibited in life

It is not religion, tradition, etc.
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