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Old 02-09-2008, 12:12 PM   #16
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The Marines go and defend our country as they are told to do. They are performing a function, and that function is extremely important.

Protest the President and his choices and policies, yes. Protesting the Marines, no.

IDK, make believe Berkley was attacked... would they defend themselves?

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Old 02-09-2008, 12:28 PM   #17
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I've never had a problem with them. They recruit in my school from time to time, usually setting up a little booth in our lunch cafeteria. They don't go out of their way, they just put up a small banner. If you're interested in getting some info, you go talk to them, if not, you don't.

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by Michelle Locke
Associated Press Writer / February 12, 2008

BERKELEY, Calif.—Officials in this liberal city may soften their anti-recruitment stance toward the U.S. Marines in the face of widespread criticism.
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The Berkeley City Council drew a deluge of disapproval nationwide in January when it voted to advise the Marines that their downtown recruitment office was not welcome and that they would be considered "uninvited and unwelcome intruders" if they chose to stay.

On Tuesday, the council was scheduled to consider a second resolution put forward by two council members that would rescind the letter and draw a line between opposing the war in Iraq and "our respect and support for those serving in the armed forces."

The recruiting office opened in Berkeley in late 2006. It operated quietly until four months ago when the anti-war group Code Pink began holding regular protests.

On Tuesday, a group called Move America Forward planned a daylong pro-troop protest outside the City Council chambers. Code Pink, which has been granted a parking space in front of the recruiting office once a week and a free sound permit for protesting, also planned to be there.
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(CNN) -- The Berkeley City Council voted early Wednesday to rescind a previous vote that said Marine recruiters are "not welcome in this city," but held tight to its anti-war stance.

The vote came after more than three hours of animated citizen input and council debate. More than 100 speakers took turns at the podium. Each speaker was given up to a minute to comment.

In a 7-to-2 vote, the council said it would no longer send a letter to the local Marine Corps Recruiting Station and Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Conway saying recruiters aren't welcome in Berkeley.

Instead, the city is now simply stating it's opposed to the war and the billions spent on it. However, "we recognize the recruiter's right to locate in our city and the right of others to protest or support their presence," the council said.

The council also said it supports and respects the men and women of the armed forces.

Ahead of the vote, passions ran high on both sides of the debate as pro-military demonstrators squared off with anti-war protesters. Berkeley police reported four arrests before the meeting began, all misdemeanors. Police said there were minor scuffles between the anti-war and pro-military camps.

An American flag was set aflame outside the City Council chambers, damaging a pair of bicycles, police said.

Inside, members of the anti-war group Code Pink lined up at the podium to speak. Their salmon-colored signs read, "Berkeley says No to War" and "City Council - We have your back."

But others scolded the City Council. "City Council -- shame on you," said one sign, and "Don't surrender to terrorists," read a T-shirt worn by a Vietnam veteran.

Debbie Lee, whose son Marc was the first Navy SEAL to die in the Iraq war, demanded an apology from the council.

"My son gave up his life for you," Lee told the council as she clutched his framed picture.

"I'm appalled at what you did," she said, referring to the council's vote on Marine recruiters.

"It's despicable what you said about our military," said another military mom, Debbie Parrish. Her son, Victor, currently serves in Iraq.

"It's very, very sad. Shame on you."

But Jean Stewart called the council's stand "courageous and gutsy," saying the war was "immoral." And Judy Christopher said, "We need to stop the war. We need to stop recruitment."

In the measure passed by the council on January 29, Marine recruiters were called "uninvited and unwelcome intruders."

It went on to say the council applauds residents and organizations that "volunteer to impede, passively or actively, by nonviolent means, the work of any military recruiting office located in the City of Berkeley."

Protesters with Code Pink have been camped outside the Marine recruiting office on Shattuck Avenue for the last four months, singing peace songs and chanting slogans for an end to the Iraq war.

Republican lawmakers in Washington fired back last week, threatening to recall more than $2 million of federal funding to the city as well as money designated for the University of California-Berkeley, the campus that became a bastion of liberalism during the Vietnam War.

The Marine Corps has said it has no plans to move its office, which is located about a block from the college campus.

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