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Old 07-26-2001, 12:48 AM   #16
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Originally posted by zooropamanda:
oh my Like O2 and beebs, that was de funniest!

haha I spat out my drink oxygen girl
I feel a little bad for the speaker at Bebe's church. He had such good intentions...imagine if he read this post and found that this speech about modesty turned into a discussion of "welcome mats", "door bells", and "peep holes"

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Old 07-28-2001, 02:45 AM   #17
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window into the sacred womb, i think thats poetry, but only poetry.
you all have dirty infested little minds , hee hee

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Old 07-28-2001, 07:49 PM   #18
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So what about men's navels? Do they get to show theirs because they don't have wombs? Are men's navels windows to anything?

As a Catholic, I can say my personal, official feeling on the subject is that my belly button is simply the place where I used to be connected to my mother. What's the big deal about that?

Sounds to me like that guy is just looking for an excuse to get young girls to stop dressing so slutty (B Spears, etc).

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Old 07-28-2001, 11:22 PM   #19
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Originally posted by martha:
From an outsider (me): Why do men take it upon themselves to tell women how to dress and conduct ourselves in the name of modesty? Especially when they only see us as wombs and not women.
Martha, I don't quite get this. Who sees women as wombs?

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Old 07-28-2001, 11:28 PM   #20
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I think modesty is great, but it seems to me that there are a lot worse things than showing a belly button.

At my church, I sometimes ask myself "where are the parents? Why do they let their girls dress this way", because I often see teenage girls who are dressed very inapproriately for church. I'm talking short short skirts that show an awful lot of leg. In a perfect world, there would be nothing wrong wit that, but this is not a perfect world. A teenage boy is a teenage boy, and we all know how excited teenage boys get when they see even a little bit of exposed skin. They should not have to deal with that at church. Church is for wworshipping God, not gazing at a pair of hot pants. I think parents should think about these things a little more, and realize that kind of clothing is definitely not appropriate for church.
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Old 07-29-2001, 12:11 AM   #21
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80s, I was responding to what Bebe said that guy said. He sees our belly buttons only as windows to a PART of our bodies. They are remnants of our connection to our mothers, not connections to any future children we may choose to have. Some men are a little over interested in women's wombs and the activity in them, or rather, the lack of control they have over the activity in them. They see us only as bearers of children, not as complete people. They want us to cover up and be more modest, all for the sake of our positions as future mothers, not as people. Even your comment about how the girls should cover up because the boys can't take it is a little on the controlling side. I know you don't mean it that way, but it brings to my over-reactive mind all those men who insist that Muslim women should stay covered because men cannot control themselves. I'm taking this and running with it because male control of women is a sore spot with me. "Boys will be boys" will someday not fly as an excuse; they'll have to be taught some self-control.
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Old 07-29-2001, 01:48 AM   #22
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Klodomir, you speak as if there are no ugly, flabby women who go around baring skin...

and i actually think females dress much more revealingly than males; i don't know of many guys who wear short skirts or tight-fitting tops to the office/workplace/etc

anyway, I love those bare bellies, no complaints here!!!

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Old 07-29-2001, 07:34 PM   #23
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boys and their belly buttons

if ya ask me theres far too much belly action going on lately. Tight skirts with bellys hanging out on 13 year olds is a BBAADDD look.

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Old 08-04-2001, 02:55 AM   #24
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hahahahahaha this whole thread is too funny!

wonder what bad experience he had with a belly-button? I can't see how they relate at all to faith but oh well

and oh yes, all for exposure but um, I agree's in elementary school now!!

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