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Old 03-22-2007, 05:46 PM   #1
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If they allow her to wear an anti-gay t shirt, doesn't it follow that students could wear anti African American t-shirts, anti-Jewish, anti-female etc etc. After all they'd just be expressing their viewpoints, right?

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Teen who wants to wear anti-gay T-shirt takes battle to court

March 22, 2007
BY LISA FEDOROWICZ

A Neuqua Valley High senior has gone to federal court seeking the right to wear an anti-gay T-shirt to school next month on the day after a national event in support of gays is scheduled in schools.

Heidi Zamecnik, 17, is asking the court to order her school and Indian Prairie District 204 to allow her to express her anti-gay beliefs on April 19, the day after the 11th annual "Day of Silence'' is scheduled to protest harassment of gays in schools.

According to the Web site www.dayofsilence.org and teachers across the country plan to observe the day in silence "to echo'' the silence that gay students face all the time.

The lawsuit filed Wednesday on behalf of Heidi and an NVHS freshman did not state what written message they planned to wear on T-shirts.

Heidi's father, Carl Zamecnik, declined to comment Wednesday night on behalf of his family, and he referred calls to an attorney.

Because of her family's "sincerely held religious beliefs" against homosexuality, "they wish to share their conviction that true happiness cannot be found through homosexual behavior," the suit says.

During her first two years of high school, the Naperville resident did not outwardly object to the "Day of Silence," in which students wear pro-gay messages on T-shirts. But in her junior year, Heidi wore a T-shirt the day after a "Day of Silence." It read in part, "BE HAPPY, NOT GAY."

That day, April 26, 2006, Dean of Students Bryan Wells told Heidi to remove the shirt or leave because her message offended others, according to the suit. When she refused, her mother was called.

Linda Zamecnik and Wells agreed Wells could alter the shirt's message to read "Be Happy. Be Straight."

But the suit says the agreement was broken when a school counselor crossed out "NOT GAY" in black marker but nothing replaced it.

The suit says Linda Zamecnik discussed the issue with the principal and superintendent and was told that staff had done nothing wrong.

The suit says Heidi suffered unlawful discrimination, humiliation and punishment by school personnel merely because they didn't agree with her viewpoint.
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I don't give a shit about what happens to hate-filled "Christians" anymore. I'm really sick of them thinking that their religion is superior to civil rights and other peoples' lives.
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but you're missing the point, martha. They don't just think it's superior to everything else, they know it is, 'cause God told 'em so.

How can you argue with that?






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I don't give a shit about what happens to hate-filled "Christians" anymore. I'm really sick of them thinking that their religion is superior to civil rights and other peoples' lives.
Even though I don't like her message she has a right to wear it. If you don't like it Martha just ignore it. Do you wan't to make Enemies?

Would you say the same if a gay person said be gay not straight?
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maybe they should start teaching tolerance in school

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Think that one through, Justin.
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maybe they should start teaching tolerance in school

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Yes, but people should also know that people think their own beliefs.
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Think that one through, Justin.
What is there to think on. People wear Bush is a Terrorist T-shirt and that is making a personal and political statement. A person wearing a Be Happy, not Gay is making a personal statemen and political too.
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When those beliefs are essentially hate speech, then there's a problem.

Would you be okay with a shirts that said "Go back to your continent, blacks"?

or

"white people are better than black people"
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Yes, but people should also know that people think their own beliefs.
would you like to have gone to a school in America with kids that wore T-shirts that said

"Guatemalans are dogs"
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Noooo nooo! Come back Lila!!!

This isn't about free speech violation. There is a dress code. Many public schools have specific codes that ban offensive images or text. Kids need to stop whining about a nonexistent right to wear stupid clothing.
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We had a thread on a similar case last year, where Dread posted some helpful and informative stuff about the legal aspects involved in students wearing T-shirts, etc. which take stances like this.
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but you're missing the point, martha. They don't just think it's superior to everything else, they know it is, 'cause God told 'em so.

How can you argue with that?






Some centuries ago you got burnt when God told you something.
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Noooo nooo! Come back Lila!!!

This isn't about free speech violation. There is a dress code. Many public schools have specific codes that ban offensive images or text. Kids need to stop whining about a nonexistent right to wear stupid clothing.



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come on

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