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Old 10-31-2001, 12:28 PM   #31
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I dont want to get in a big debate about pot or else I'll have to move this thread.. but people that have never tried it or whatever are like.. '' ohh pot is drugs, bad.. its scary, its going to make me act all crazy.. etc.. '' Not true with pot. True with harder drugs definately.

*sigh.. in fact I dont even consider pot a drug. It's an herb, it grows from the ground, has not been proven to be addicting, and cant kill you, unlike alcohol. And it does serve medicinal purposes.

To each his own basically, is what I'm saying. And if U2 wants to hit a joint every now and then, which I'm more than sure they do, that's fine by me. At least they're not doing coke or herioin.
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Sicy, I think you already turned this into a debate about pot.

Morphine also serves for medicinal purposes. And yet, it is a dangerous drug.
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Call me old-fashioned, but i would be highly dissapointed if U2 members did it.

i think you will find yourselves disappointed in a fair number of people in your life. successful individuals have been known to smoke up...it's really not that big of a deal.



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Old 10-31-2001, 01:48 PM   #34
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Sicy, I think you already turned this into a debate about pot.
I just added my two cents.. you guys started it.


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U2girl > I'd like to see any stats you might know about concerning how many deaths are reported each year from smoking marijuana alone. Of course it's not for everyone, but I don't understand why people get so freaked out about it.

Also, my best friend is dying of cancer. The meds they put him on were killing him faster. Now he's off the meds and using marijuana for pain and is doing much better.

But hey, I have no attachment to convincing anybody of anything. To each his own.

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There are no statistics about marijuana related deaths to be found and you know it. But does that necessarily mean no one ACTUALLY died?

Also, i was talking about drugs in general, not just marijuana.
Why people get freaked? Because it's addictive, and it does horrible things to your mind/brain, and to your internal organs, and it CAN kill you-both your body and your psyche. (again, this is general about drugs)

I have heard marijuana can ease pain for ill people (like in your friend's case). I guess that can be a "pro" reason for it.
And, wine in moderate measures (a glass or two a day) IS good for your health-particularly red wine - for prevention of coronary diseases.

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I dont want to get in a big debate about pot or else I'll have to move this thread.. but people that have never tried it or whatever are like.. '' ohh pot is drugs, bad.. its scary, its going to make me act all crazy.. etc.. '' Not true with pot. True with harder drugs definately.

*sigh.. in fact I dont even consider pot a drug. It's an herb, it grows from the ground, has not been proven to be addicting, and cant kill you, unlike alcohol. And it does serve medicinal purposes.

To each his own basically, is what I'm saying. And if U2 wants to hit a joint every now and then, which I'm more than sure they do, that's fine by me. At least they're not doing coke or herioin.
I don't believe what you said in the first paragraph. One of the reasons drugs scare me IS the fact you don't control yourself. And i don't ever want to find out what would happen to my personality or my psyche if i ever tried. Absolutely no intention and no desire.

Like i said in my upper post, i admit marijuana can be used for easing the pain in some medical cases. I don't believe it is not addicting.

Another reason to be against drugs is the addiction tends to increase crime-stealing etc... because people addicted to drugs spend all their money on it.

As for your last paragraph: "U2 hits a joint"? My ass they do. Come on, they are on tour, plus 3 of them have families. Do you really think they'd do it?
However, they probably drink alcohol. And nothing excessive, excluding Adam's problems a few years ago.

"At least they're not doing coke or heroin". No comment to that one.
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AGGGHHH! A U2 thread is in my forum!!!!
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I don't believe what you said in the first paragraph. One of the reasons drugs scare me IS the fact you don't control yourself. And i don't ever want to find out what would happen to my personality or my psyche if i ever tried. Absolutely no intention and no desire.

Like i said in my upper post, i admit marijuana can be used for easing the pain in some medical cases. I don't believe it is not addicting.

Another reason to be against drugs is the addiction tends to increase crime-stealing etc... because people addicted to drugs spend all their money on it.

As for your last paragraph: "U2 hits a joint"? My ass they do. Come on, they are on tour, plus 3 of them have families. Do you really think they'd do it?
However, they probably drink alcohol. And nothing excessive, excluding Adam's problems a few years ago.

"At least they're not doing coke or heroin". No comment to that one.
u2girl, maybe this is a debate you should stay out of because you've actually never smoked pot. And that's a good thing. But trust me. Pot is not addicting. That's been proven many times over.

Another thing, how do you know pot directly leads to crime? The only times I have done anything stupid or getting in trouble is when I'm drunk. I can guarantee you that there are many more alcohol related crimes than pot related crimes.

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It's rather telling that the folks here who feel that pot is dangerous and somehow worse than alcohol have admitted never trying it.
Look, I'm not a big fan of marijuana but anyone who really thinks that it is as dangerous and destructive as alcohol is insane. (Unless they subscribe to the "gateway drug" theory that is.)
Marijuana isn't even addictive in the medical sense as alcohol and morphine base drugs are. I do believe strongly though that it is psychologically addictive but you aren't going to find many ex potheads going through horrible withdrawal symptoms.
How about this: I've actually smoked pot in the past. I drink alcohol on a semi-regular basis and I even tried cocaine once. There is NO comparison. Marijauna won't do much for your personality but alcohol and cocaine are a thousand time more destructive.

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You know U2 travels with a lot of people, roadies, people who set up the stage and what not. Who's to say that the pot belonged to any member of U2? It was probably a bunch of road crew lighting up.

And as for Bono touching his nose all the time because he's on cocaine, uhhh I touch my nose all the time and I don't do speed. I never have. It's just a nervous habit of mine. I also scratch my head and behind my ears. Nervous habit.



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1. I had 2 beers tonight.
2. I touch my nose often this time of year due to allergies (not "snot," just that itchy feeling that allergies bring about).

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Reasons I'll never smoke pot:
1. respect for myself
2. respect for the law
3. it smells like ass....

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u2girl, maybe this is a debate you should stay out of because you've actually never smoked pot. And that's a good thing. But trust me. Pot is not addicting. That's been proven many times over.

Another thing, how do you know pot directly leads to crime? The only times I have done anything stupid or getting in trouble is when I'm drunk. I can guarantee you that there are many more alcohol related crimes than pot related crimes.

Here we go again: don't talk about it because you didn't try it.
So what? Why should that prevent me from having an opinion?

I didn't say marijuana directly leads into crime. It is done indirectly-when a drug addict (or a person who uses drugs excessively) runs out of his own money, he/she will eventually start to steal money or start robbing people.

I didn't say marijuana was worse than alcohol. All i'm saying is both is dangerous in excessive use.

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Nice try. I wasn't the only one with the anti drugs point of view in this post, so cool it.
Also, i think all of us with anti drugs point of view contributed to this thread being moved, as well as people with different opinions. You can't single anyone out. And if you have a problem with that, talk to the mod who moved it (Salome, i believe).



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