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Old 06-17-2006, 04:32 PM   #16
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Jamila...it is OK to laugh at yourself once in a while!

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I will be glad to "arrest myself" tomorrow for "The Lady" as will thousands of other people around the world this weekend.


And I will our efforts on her behalf.
This is a genuine question - do you really anticipate that her captors are going to pay one iota of attention to this self-arrest action? That it will make a difference in any way?
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Well, my first attempt at an "arrest party" is over - and it will only be BIGGER AND BETTER NEXT YEAR!

I'll talk about what's been happening with me in several sections because I simply don't have the time to post one gigantic post.


We gathered last night (17 June) at 6:00pm to start our day of "house arrest".

There were five people altogether - two university students that I met through AI (Amnesty Internat'l), a friend of mine from Vietnam who was very interested in learning more about "The Lady" and the fight for freedom and democracy in Burma, her teenage son and me.


We spent the first hour gathering and getting to know each other better as we helped my friend from Vietnam finish preparing the Burmese food that she had prepared for the evening meal.

Although her and her husband own a local restaurant, this was the first time she had attempted to prepare food from Burma and found the whole process quite enjoyable. She said that she felt closer to "The Lady" just in preparing some food from her land. She also brought some music and some textiles from her country.


We also had some CDs of traditional Burmese music, a copy of the CD "For The Lady" and the DVD about Daw Aung San Suu Kyi and the struggle for freedom and democracy in Burma which the US Campaign for Burma sent all those who wanted to attempt an "arrest party".

About 7:00pm, we sat down for dinner while the music played in the background.

We all shared from our different perspectives how we first heard of "The Lady" and the situation in Burma.
The two students had heard of AI and Daw Aung San Suu Kyi through the Elevation tour in 2001. And it was actually my friend from Vietnam's 16 year old son who had been talking about "The Lady" at home over the last few months which prompted her to come to my "arrest party"! (smile)

About 8:30pm, after dinner and clean up, we began our "program".


This is where I will pick up the next part of my story tomorrow.


Although it was a small gathering, it had a VERY POWERFUL effect on me and on all the others who came and participated.


I only hope that some of you will seriously consider JOINING US NEXT YEAR!


Thanks for taking the time to read this.


WALK ON....
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This is where I will pick up the next part of my story tomorrow.



I feel somewhat "arrested" having to wait for the end of the story about your gathering!
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Hey, zoney? I think that's enough of the "arrested" jokes.
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This is a genuine question - do you really anticipate that her captors are going to pay one iota of attention to this self-arrest action? That it will make a difference in any way?
At risk of jamila thinking this is another attack on her, let me state that it actually has nothing to do with jamilia, but I am quite perplexed at how locking yourself up is going to do anything to help either "The Lady" as she is now called, or to learn yourself on the situation. It seems like such a uni student union member token gesture.


The woman needs real help. Not a bunch of idealists locking themselves up in some silent protest who merely burn incense and stuff their faces. Really. Dont bother getting offended, jamila. How do you think you/we can help? Without writing some letter to some uninterested US politician, I mean. I want to hear something else. What other ideas are there?

Anyhow, glad you enjoyed yourself with your Vietnamese friend. Must be nice to have a Vietnamese friend. I have friends, but none currently who are Vietnamese.
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A teacher at our school is Burmese (actually a member of the same ethnic group--the Karen they're called--as Aung San Suu Kyi) and every time she goes to Burma we're never sure if she's coming back. They really are very strict about letting their own people out of the country (even if you're not agitating for change). Very repressive regime.

As to "arresting yourself" I'm not sure what I think about it. I certainly admire the good hearted intentions behind it, though I must also question how much it will contribute towards her release.

It raises the question of how much good nonviolent resistance can do in a totatlitarian regime. I think the non-violent protest of Ghandi and King worked in their respective countries because the countries had a democratic, human rights based tradition that Ghandi and King could appeal to. I think Suu Kyi's resistance has been good because it's raised awareness, but ultimately the only thing that will change things in Burma is the rest of the world putting serious pressure--to the point,possibly, of militaty--pressure on the country. Perhaps that pressure will come about because of her work. I hope so.
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At risk of jamila thinking this is another attack on her, let me state that it actually has nothing to do with jamilia, but I am quite perplexed at how locking yourself up is going to do anything to help either "The Lady" as she is now called, or to learn yourself on the situation. It seems like such a uni student union member token gesture.


The woman needs real help. Not a bunch of idealists locking themselves up in some silent protest who merely burn incense and stuff their faces. Really. Dont bother getting offended, jamila. How do you think you/we can help? Without writing some letter to some uninterested US politician, I mean. I want to hear something else. What other ideas are there?

Anyhow, glad you enjoyed yourself with your Vietnamese friend. Must be nice to have a Vietnamese friend. I have friends, but none currently who are Vietnamese.
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Myanmar's Aung San Suu Kyi turns 61 under house arrest by Hla Hla Htay


Mon Jun 19, 2:37 PM ET


Myanmar democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi turned 61, alone and under house arrest in the military-ruled state that has ignored calls to free one of the world's best known political prisoners.

Some 300 supporters began a day of ceremonies and protests near her crumbling Yangon house, where the Nobel peace prize laureate has spent 10 of the past 17 years behind barbed wire and isolated from the outside world.

Members of her National League for Democracy (NLD) offered Buddhist prayers and released doves and 100 colorful balloons at their party headquarters as 20 plainclothes security personnel kept a close eye on activities.

NLD supporters, clad in the party's orange uniforms and T-shirts bearing the picture of the pro-democracy leader, chanted "Free Suu Kyi!"

"We wish her good health," said Lai Lai, a senior member of the NLD, the opposition party which won 1990 elections that were annulled by the junta, and whose members have been targeted with harassment and arrest.

Several NLD members also prayed for Aung San Suu Kyi at the Shwedagon Pagoda, the most notable building in Yangon.



Her birthday also drew international responses with British Prime Minister Tony Blair saying he was "bitterly disappointed" she was spending another year alone and under house arrest.

"This is utterly unacceptable and goes against everything the United Nations Secretary General, most of Burma's neighbours, the European Union and the wider international community have repeatedly called for," he said in London.

UN Deputy Secretary General Mark Malloch Brown said Myanmar could be referred to the world body's Security Council over its failure to release her and for its repressive policies.

Malloch Brown, who is visiting Malaysia, told the country's official news agency late Monday that several members of the Security Council, apart from the United States, were pursuing the matter.



In Yangon, police arrested a man in his 40s at the City Hall as he was about to shout demands for her release. Witnesses said the man was wearing the Aung San Suu Kyi T-shirt. The NLD said he was not a party member.

Aung San Suu Kyi, the foreign-educated daughter of national independence hero General Aung San, underwent a hysterectomy in 2003 and was treated last week for stomach troubles.

Five Buddhist monks prayed for her health and her immediate release from house arrest, which was extended by the isolated junta for another year in May.



Supporters in Australia, Asia, Europe and the United States, and ethnic minority guerrillas and refugees near and across the Thai border, were also marking her birthday.

In Bangkok monks and supporters held a birthday ceremony outside the Myanmar embassy, following similar events with hundreds of people in Kuala Lumpur and New Delhi at the weekend.



In the United States, home to Myanmar's largest exile community, the Washington-based US Campaign for Burma organized events in more than 270 towns and cities over the weekend to demand her freedom.



Bangkok-based exile group the National Council of the Union of Burma condemned the regime, which calls itself the State Peace and Development Council, and accused it of "brutality and mismanagement."

It demanded the junta led by 73-year-old General Than Shwe "immediately release Aung San Suu Kyi, all jailed members of National League for Democracy, women political activists and democracy-loving people."

The regime had showed its "sheer disinterest in a peaceful and negotiated political solution to the festering crises facing Burma today," it said.



Aung San Suu Kyi studied and worked abroad including for the United Nations but returned to Myanmar, formerly known as Burma, in 1988 to care for her ailing mother.

That same year mass pro-democracy rallies broke out but were bloodily crushed by the military. Aung San Suu Kyi co-founded the NLD and was put under house arrest in 1989. She refused an offer of freedom if she left the country for good.



The opposition party won 1990 elections by a landslide but the military, which has ruled the country since 1962, ignored the results.

Her most recent house arrest began after her convoy was attacked by a regime-backed mob during a political tour of northern Myanmar on May 30, 2003. The attack left four people dead and Aung San Suu Kyi was briefly jailed.

She has had no contact with the outside world since, except for a short-wave radio and a monthly visit from her doctor. She lives with two maids but is not allowed to receive guests, including her two adult sons.

Following her extended detention the United States, an increasingly vocal critic of Myanmar, has said it would pursue an unprecedented UN Security Council resolution to condemn the junta's repressive policies.



Copyright © 2006 Agence France Presse. All rights reserved.


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Rats, I was in the hospital and didn't know I was supposed to arrest myself. Maybe I'll arrest myself now. Busted!
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jamila, you've been done a disservice by never being taught how rude it is to ignore someone who addresses you.

Do you give anyone the time of day who is not marginalised, starving, politically disadvantaged, a victim of famine/drought, or bono? You continually promote goodwill. So show some yourself, please, and at least be civil and polite enough to engage in a discussion. I would like to ask you some questions without having to read copious cut'n'pastes, as it is a discussion forum, afterall.

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If that is the case, it's really sad to know that some people at this site refuse to move on with their lives enough to stop appearing to be so immature as to try to make fun of me at Daw Aung San Suu Kyi's expense.

yes... you're quite spot on. that comment was CLEARLY at her expense.

the correlation was immediate and obvious.

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I'm all for a discussion about what we can do to bring pressure to bear on the Burmese regime--although, as always, it's up to individual posters to decide if they wish to answer specific questions addressed to them or not. I'd also like to remind everyone at this point that mean-spirited jabs and/or pointed condescension--whether to provoke, or in response--have no place in a useful discussion, and could easily wind up getting this thread closed.

Angela Harlem is correct that FYM is primarily for discussion and as such, excessive use of cut-and-paste stories illustrating the same point over and over is a problem. From the reminder about Iraq threads pinned to the top of this page (which, please note, applies to all FYM threads--not just Iraq ones):
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FYM, as a whole, is a very socially and politically aware group of people. Several of us are regularly involved with charitable and action campaigns of various kinds, and several of us have on occasion created threads in here to share our concerns on these issues with other posters--soliciting their input, encouraging their participation, or just aiming to raise a little awareness. That's fine, and I want everyone to continue to feel comfortable doing that. But...these threads still need to abide by the same rules as any other FYM threads, and a little moderation in taking to the pulpit (hey, we all do it sometimes) is called for. Please--do not overexploit or monopolize this particular use of the forum. It can only be counterproductive in the end.

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Here's the text of an email that all of us who participated in "arrest parties" received from the U.S. Campaign for Burma yesterday:



J17 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Aung San Suu Kyi Top World News Story Because of You


Monday, June 19 2006


Dear Debbie,

Our June 17 Global Day of Action was a huge success! Over 270 events around the world commemorating Aung San Suu Kyi's 61st birthday raised an amazing amount of global awareness about the situation in Burma and Aung San Suu Kyi's ongoing imprisonment.


As of the writing of this e-mail, there are over 240 articles on the internet and in print around the world about Aung San Suu Kyi and Burma! Years ago, before we started asking people to 'arrest themselves to highlight Aung San Suu Kyi's birthday and her unjust imprisonment, the world passed June 19 without taking stock of the immense suffering of Burma's people and the great contribution to humanity's strivings for peace made by Aung San Suu Kyi.


Aung San Suu Kyi is rising in the minds of people around the world, and we are closer to seeing real positive action in Burma than ever. This is all because of you.



Please know what a great contribution you have made to the cause of Burmese freedom, democracy, and human rights! Below is a small sampling of the articles that have been written about our Global Day of Action and Aung San Suu Kyi. Click on the links, read the articles, and know that your efforts have really meant so much.



Many, many thanks! Please keep the messages to the june17forsuukyi@lists.riseup.net listserve going with notes about your house arrest parties!

Sincerely,

Cristina Moon, Campaigns Coordinator, USCB




Suu Kyi Spends 61st Birthday Under Arrest The Associated Press/Washington Post 19 June 2006

Burma's opposition muted but alive BBC

Birthday Tribute Fort Wayne News Sentinel

Pursuing Burmese freedom: Celebration aims to educate public of activist’s work Fort Wayne Journal Gazette

Quiet Prayers, Protests as Suu Kyi Turns 61 Reuters/Washington Post

Protests Mark Suu Kyi's Birthday ITV News

New Bid to Free Burma's Suu Kyi The Age (Australia)

Burma Activists to Mark Suu Kyi Birthday Bangkok Post

Meeting of Nobel Winners Shows Sharply Different Treatment for Two Absent Laureates Voice of America News

Birthday greetings to Aung San Suu Kyi - 3,888 days in detention OneWorld UK

Protests as Detained Suu Kyi Turns 61 The Advertiser (Australia)

Low Key Celebrations for Suu Kyi Birthday Irish Examiner (Ireland)

Protestors Exhort World to Condemn Myanmar Daily Times (Pakistan)

Indian Lawmakers Plan Birthday Gift for Suu Kyi Daily Times (Pakistan)

Activists Call for Sanctions on Myanmar Peninsula On-Line (Qatar)

Amnesty Urges Burma to Free Opposition Leader ABC Pacific News (Australia)

India 'to Push for Burma Reform' Bangkok Post

Burma's Solitary Existence Globe and Mail (Canada)

Burmese Democratic Activists in New Delhi Stage Protests Before Daw Suu's Birthday Narinjara News (Bangladesh)

Quiet prayers, protests as Suu Kyi turns 61 Boston Globe

Suu Kyi spends 61st birthday under arrest Times Picayune (Los Angeles)

Suu Kyi Spends 61st Birthday under arrest Wilmington Morning Star (North Carolina)

Suu Kyi Spends 61st Birthday Under Arrest Duluth News Tribute (Minnesota)



Press for Change in Burma
Wall Street Journal
By PAULA J. DOBRIANSKY
June 19, 2006

Today marks the 61st birthday of Aung San Suu Kyi, the elected leader of Burma's National League for Democracy. It is the third consecutive birthday that she has spent under detention -- and a stark reminder that not only she, but 50 million fellow Burmese are living without basic freedoms and human rights. Absent change, Burma is likely to continue a dangerous decline that threatens the welfare of its people and its neighbors alike.




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Only by unconditionally releasing Ms. Suu Kyi and all other political prisoners, restoring a democratic form of government, and observing international standards of human rights can Burma's regime bring stability, prosperity and peace to its country -- and international respect to its leaders. Toward that end, we are seeking a United Nations Security Council resolution that underscores the aforementioned goals, which were communicated by U.N. Undersecretary General for Political Affairs Ibrahim Gambari to senior Burmese officials during his visit to the country last month. The U.S. is committed to working with the U.N. Security Council, U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, regional institutions and governments to press for genuine national reconciliation in Burma.


The threat to the Burmese people from their own leaders is clear: In only the last few months, attacks against ethnic minorities have displaced thousands. Military units abuse their power regularly and commit egregious human rights abuses with impunity, including rape, forced labor, murder and torture. The regime's continued economic mismanagement and corruption have led to a widespread failure of the banking system and rampant inflation, which increases the daily hardships of the Burmese people. Making matters worse, the military's restrictions on U.N. and nongovernmental organizations have hampered the ability of relief organizations to deliver assistance to Burma's most vulnerable populations.


Infectious diseases like HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis and avian flu are best controlled by responsible governments with transparent public health systems that cooperate closely with international institutions. Yet even as the Burmese regime spends considerable sums to finish relocating its capital, malnutrition is rising and thousands are dying from treatable diseases like malaria and tuberculosis. This tragic failure calls into question the Burmese junta's willingness and ability to protect and improve the well-being of its people.

Burma's people are not alone in facing the consequences of their government's actions: the country's deterioration poses a real danger to its neighbors and -- in today's interconnected world -- even to those far away. The drug trade and trafficking in persons are rampant; both flow across porous borders and spread corruption, political instability and disease.


America will persist in its strategy to increase international pressure on Burma by working with individual governments and regional organizations, such as the European Union, to seek to return the country to its people through a transparent, inclusive political process. The U.S. administration will continue to impose economic sanctions on the Burmese government, while insisting upon the unconditional release of Ms. Suu Kyi and other political prisoners; an end to attacks on civilians and other human rights violations; and a real dialogue leading to peace, democracy and national reconciliation.

In Asia, the U.S. will continue to collaborate with Burma's neighbors, including members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, who have a particular interest in seeing Burma's decline reversed. Asean leaders have already publicly called for the release of political prisoners and for the resumption of a national dialogue with all political stakeholders. On June 3, Indonesian Foreign Minister Hasan Wirayuda stated that "the junta [can] not deflect criticism of the Nobel peace laureate's detention by saying it was an internal matter. The truth is no country can claim that human rights abuses are its own internal affairs."


Finally, the U.S. will work in the U.N. to press for change in Burma. We are pleased that the U.N.'s Economic and Social Council will discuss Burma's forced labor practices in its July session. The U.S. will continue to pursue a U.N. Security Council resolution. As U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has said, America stands with the people of Burma, and we have not forgotten their dream of democracy.



The economic, political and public health situation in Burma has deteriorated to the point where the regime's combination of repression and its unwillingness -- or inability -- to meet its own citizens' needs pose a threat to the peace, security and stability of the region. We must all act together to help the Burmese people win the freedom and prosperity they deserve.

Ms. Dobriansky is the U.S. Undersecretary of State for democracy and global affairs. In this capacity, she is responsible for directing U.S. foreign policy on a range of transnational issues, including human rights, health, humanitarian matters and democracy promotion.
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