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Old 03-15-2007, 09:18 AM   #1
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Attitudes to alcohol

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Binge-drinking is a particular problem among young people, with almost a fifth of the 15-24 age group usually binge-drinking when consuming alcohol, according to the results of the survey on attitudes towards alcohol, presented by the European Commission on Thursday.

According to the data, men drink more than women, and one in 10 Europeans usually drinks five or more drinks in one session.

Almost eight out of 10 Europeans agree with putting warnings on alcohol bottles and adverts to warn pregnant women and drivers of the dangers of drinking alcohol.
Are we drinking too much? What about this binge-drinking craze?
What do you think contributes to the increase in alcohol consumption?
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Binge drinking is a problem in the US too, especially among high school and college students.

I guess people that age think binge drinking is fun or something-even though it can kill you and in some cases turn you into an alcoholic. I think our attitudes about alcohol make it far more acceptable than drugs are, but alcohol is a drug. Having personally witnessed what alcoholism and alcohol can do to people, I sure wish that teens and young adults would not binge drink.
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Very important to stress is, the consume of alcohol has decreased.
But, the ones who drink drink more.

that means, less people drink alcohol, but if they do, they do binge drinking.
I've just read about a 16 year old that fell into coma after drinking 52 Tequila.
The doctor explained, if you drink very fast your body doesn't have the chance to react, hence you can drink so much as to poison your body.
That was what this boy did.

As the survey shows, most people say that if they are going to drink, generally they then want to binge-drink.
Onöy a few people said they are generally fine with one or two beer or glasses of wine.
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Re: Attitudes to alcohol

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What about this binge-drinking craze?
I really wouldn't call it a craze, binge drinking has been around forever, and it's usually in the "inexperienced".
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Old 03-15-2007, 09:49 AM   #5
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Besides binge-drinking, another thing I've been noticing a lot lately is people drinking while taking certain drugs. Two years ago, a fellow student died after taking sleeping pills and one drink. A few weeks ago, I had to call 911 because the man downstairs had drank after taking his blood pressure meds and was having seizures. More than once I've had to catch my friend after she takes anti-anxiety meds and reaches for a drink.

If people want to drink, hey whatever, but I'm losing sympathy for people who are too stupid to remember the drugs they've taken, or just think they are invincible. It pisses me off because many times, they don't learn from their actions and it ends up causing their families and friends constant stress of having to police them and constantly worry that they could drop dead from a few drinks.
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i disagree with the definitions of binge drinking. i'm a big, solid man. 5 beers isn't going to do to me what it is going to do to a 110lb female. i could very easily go to a bar and have 5 beers and, while i wouldn't drive, i wouldn't consider myself all that drunk, nor would i consider myself to have just binged.
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That's right. Here five beers is for a starter. It's even that beer isn't consumed that much by the youth.
Usually you start drinking at 14 at the latest. It's not unusual to see kids as young as nine or ten at a party totally drunk. They drink beer and alcopops.
The older ones, i.e. thirteen plus drink vodka, cognac, rum and all that stuff, mixed with cola, or Red Bull-Vodka and such with some liquors in between.

They drink until everythnig comes back, so that they can proll about howm much they drank the next monday in school.

Very popular is so-called flatrate-drinking in discos.
Flatrate here is if you have a DSL unlimited plan, and in the discos it is you pay €12, about $15, and can drink as much as you like. So of course it's a contest very often, and if you can't compet, you are out.

This behaviour stops around age 22 or so, sometimes later.
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That's right. Here five beers is for a starter. It's even that beer isn't consumed that much by the youth.
Usually you start drinking at 14 at the latest. It's not unusual to see kids as young as nine or ten at a party totally drunk. They drink beer and alcopops.
The older ones, i.e. thirteen plus drink vodka, cognac, rum and all that stuff, mixed with cola, or Red Bull-Vodka and such with some liquors in between.

Wow, I was still playing with GiJoes at age 9...
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Yes, it's frightening. When I was nine I didn't think about partying and drinking at all.
When I was fifteen I saw those toddlers running around totally drunk.
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That's right. Here five beers is for a starter. It's even that beer isn't consumed that much by the youth.
Usually you start drinking at 14 at the latest. It's not unusual to see kids as young as nine or ten at a party totally drunk. They drink beer and alcopops.
The older ones, i.e. thirteen plus drink vodka, cognac, rum and all that stuff, mixed with cola, or Red Bull-Vodka and such with some liquors in between.
What?! 9 or 10?! Surely that's an exaggeration, I'm only 20 and it's absolutely impossible for me to imagine it being somewhat common for kids that young to be drinking. From what I know about my country the earliest age kids start to drink is 14-16. Although this may differ in the US and europe.
But, I didn't even think it's possible for children 9,10 years of age to stomach enough alcohol to get drunk without contstantly throwing up.
Any reliable stats on the subject?

If this is true and it's starting to become common for people that young to drink then that's a huuuuggeee problem.
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What?! 9 or 10?! Surely that's an exaggeration, I'm only 20 and it's absolutely impossible for me to imagine it being somewhat common for kids that young to be drinking. From what I know about my country the earliest age kids start to drink is 14-16. Although this may differ in the US and europe.
But, I didn't even think it's possible for children 9,10 years of age to stomach enough alcohol to get drunk without contstantly throwing up.
Any reliable stats on the subject?

If this is true and it's starting to become common for people that young to drink then that's a huuuuggeee problem.

yeah, at 9 or 10 it seems like even small amounts of alcohol would make you sick.

i would say most have their first drinks between the ages of 14-16, though in the US it's illegal, so there's lots of sneaking around and drinking beer in the woods and stuff, which is half the fun and the appeal, but i think it also adds to the binge mentality and treats alcohol like a drug meant to fuck you up, instead of an addition to a meal or a social lubricant or something to enjoy. when you're young, it's drink to get drunk, and do it quickly so you don't get caught.
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Well, it's not as if the majority of kids is behaving like that. Not at all.
But it still is a frightening lot of children that age.
It normally really starts at age 14. With nine or ten they are drunk quite fast. One beer and that's it, or one to tow alcopops.

The fact is, it is happening, and the pressure on other kids is growing.
You are the coolest when you do what the older ones, i.e. the teenagers do.
Then a small group starts, and in order to get accepted you either participate, or you start looking for new friends.

Maybe it came off a bit as the usual situation, and I'm sorry for that. I didn't intend to exaggerate, but wanted to show how it evolves.

As I wrote in my first post, the number of people drinking decreased over the previous years, but the ones who start drinking drink more.
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yeah, at 9 or 10 it seems like even small amounts of alcohol would make you sick.

i would say most have their first drinks between the ages of 14-16, though in the US it's illegal, so there's lots of sneaking around and drinking beer in the woods and stuff, which is half the fun and the appeal, but i think it also adds to the binge mentality and treats alcohol like a drug meant to fuck you up, instead of an addition to a meal or a social lubricant or something to enjoy. when you're young, it's drink to get drunk, and do it quickly so you don't get caught.
That's how you recognize who of them is drunk.
It is a small amount they drink, then they can't walk, and shortly thereafter you see them getting the stuff out again.

They don't drink too much, but enough to get drunk, and often to get sick.

In Germany beer and other drinks with less than, I think, 12 per cent vol. alcohol and cigarettes are allowed at age 16, the rest is allowed when you turn 18.
But of course nobody wants to wait until they can legally do it.

With cigarettes it's similar.
The worst I've seen was a five year old smoking, but that was a single case and his mother didn't care at all.
My friends started smoking with eight for one summer, then quit and started again at about thirteen. We started drinking at about fourteen. When my cousin was eleven or twelve, he and another one had some cognac, pure, and he got very sick from it.
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I really wouldn't call it a craze, binge drinking has been around forever, and it's usually in the "inexperienced".
That's not really my experience. Most of the heavy binge drinkers I've encountered were law students, MBA students, etc, people well into their 20s.
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That's not really my experience. Most of the heavy binge drinkers I've encountered were law students, MBA students, etc, people well into their 20s.
Fair enough. In my experience I've seen most people slow down their drinking in the late 20's or once they leave school...
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