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Old 02-02-2005, 06:08 PM   #1
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seriously. anything. i'll be as non-political as i possibly can be.

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ok my question...is it true that you're just like everyone else?????
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ok my question...is it true that you're just like everyone else?????

yes AND no.

yes, in that we breathe, eat, sleep, love, hurt, cry, and pee just like everyone else. however, we are attracted to members of the SAME sex, where as 95% of the population is attracted to members of the OPPOSITE sex. homosexuality is exactly the same as heterosexuality, so think of it like that. the only major difference is that same-gender couples tend to magnify some of the better (and worse) traits of either gender. remember lesbians are not men, they are LESBIANS. and gay men are not women, they are GAY.
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Old 02-02-2005, 06:21 PM   #4
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I need to clarify I wasn't being serious. Gender makes no difference to me. And that's all that I reckon seperates groups in terms of sexuality. As it stands for anyone, very few people statistically will ever be attracted to the same person I, or you, are and gender is irrelevent. You like people. I like people. And we all pee and sleep and eat.

Sorry for sidetracking your thread lol
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I need to clarify I wasn't being serious. Gender makes no difference to me. And that's all that I reckon seperates groups in terms of sexuality. As it stands for anyone, very few people statistically will ever be attracted to the same person I, or you, are and gender is irrelevent. You like people. I like people. And we all pee and sleep and eat.

Sorry for sidetracking your thread lol

i take your point -- i intended for this to be a tongue-in-cheek thread.

but on a serious note, i know there are people on FYM who may have never met a living, breathing gay person. so i can answer serious questions, too.
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which do you prefer, gay, homoerotic, or vaginally-challengened?

boxers or briefs?
coke or pepsi?
MCDs or BK?
yankees or mets?
and do you believe a tomato is a fruit or a vegatable?
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Is it true that if you love someone of the same sex and want to marry them that the foundation of which the institution of marriage and the moral ground for this country will crumble? Will we all go to hell?
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Does it make you happy to know that my dad, my sister, and my brother in law are all mainstream ministers who do not believe that gays go to hell?
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Oh! I do have a serious question. Well, 2 actually.

Ok, years back I worked at a company and all of us got on pretty well. One of the guys was gay and very open about it. Not campy, but he never hid it and it wasn't really an issue as no one really cared. he was still just Mark and a really great guy. But this isn't about Mark. Well the second question is. First question is about a woman we all worked with who originally came from another capital city in another Aus state. She was a lesbian and also a nice lady. One day she disappeared from work and the managers just said a vague 'she was taking a long leave of absence'. We all murmured we hoped she was ok and carried on as normal. She did keep to herself a fair deal so no one really knew what was going on. After a couple of months, management all walked around the work stations and called an impromtu meeting, a casual one. We all hovered near the filing cabinets and the floor manager cleared his throat and announced there was to be a "workplace transition and he needed our assistance"...we all got a bit lost at this point and wondered what the hell he was on about. There had been talk for a long time about our office relocating and we assumed it was that. But it wasn't. He said the lady who had gone on leave had actually gone away to have a 'gender transition' as he called it. She'd been in therapy, hence her long leave. He announced that she was now to be legally employed as a man and would be using the mens restrooms etc etc and if anyone had issues with this to arrange appointments with management and HR (human resources) and to ask that we all now call her by her new name which had been changed legally by deed poll and so on. She'd be returning in a week or so and anyone who had any problems or questins at all was to go about sorting it out the mature and respectful way and all that. The entire office seemed to adjust very weel. She was referred to as he and it all seemed fine, which was great. Mark told me her family didn't even know she was in a lesbian relationship prior so I couldn't even begin to imagine the massive life change she now he, had gone through. When he came back, it was like it all made sense. The hormone therapy and stuff he'd begun had started taking effect and he looked just like a guy. To an outsider, you'd never have guessed. I dont know if this background is entirely necessary, but this is my question: Was the partner of him now heterosexual? They remained in the relationship after she became a he and so how is sexuality affected by this kind of thing? Mark couldn't answer this and I dont know if anyone can, not that it really matters, but I am curious as to opinions.

My second question lo. When I left this company, we all went to the pub after a farewell dinner and all got on the turps. About halfway through the evening Mark made a comment about a guy standing at the bar. I asked him with a laugh how on earth he could tell the other guy was gay. Mark replied that he could spot one a mile off and had never known himself to be wrong. How on earth could he do that? I can't tell shit about people lol, so it was kinda interesting that he had what he called his 'gaydar'

So yeah...they're the questions. Any ideas?
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which do you prefer, gay, homoerotic, or vaginally-challengened?

boxers or briefs?
coke or pepsi?
MCDs or BK?
yankees or mets?
and do you believe a tomato is a fruit or a vegatable?
#1) in common social discourse, "gay" is fine; amongs friends, "homo" is cute; amongst gay friends, even "fag"can be endearing. "faggot" is never acceptable

#2) boxer briefs. check out the 2(X)ist line. very cool.

#3) neither. fast food makes you fat.

#4) red sox. my dream is for the mets and the yankees to be playing against each other, and a comet to fall from space and incinerate both teams. except for that lovely Derek Jeter. he'll survive, and play for Boston, and will one day be mine.

#%) a tomato is a fruit by virtue of having fertalized seeds -- i was told that fruit is, scientifically, a fertalized ovary, hence it has seeds. thus, a tomato is a fruit.
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Is it true that if you love someone of the same sex and want to marry them that the foundation of which the institution of marriage and the moral ground for this country will crumble? Will we all go to hell?

no. marriage will be stronger, society will be stronger, STDs will go down, HIV infections will go down, suicide amongst gay teens (and gays in general) will go down, and more needy children will be adopted.
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Does it make you happy to know that my dad, my sister, and my brother in law are all mainstream ministers who do not believe that gays go to hell?

yes. and we need, and appreciate, all the love and support we get from Christians. on FYM, i've learned so much about the side of Chirstianity that i was never exposed to, nor do i hear much about on TV, thanks to Dobson, Falwell, Robertson, and W.

it makes me re-think my own relationship to christianity. needs more thought, but the fact that Christians are as diverse as any community makes me feel much more warmly towards the Church.
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Oh! I do have a serious question. Well, 2 actually.

I dont know if this background is entirely necessary, but this is my question: Was the partner of him now heterosexual? They remained in the relationship after she became a he and so how is sexuality affected by this kind of thing? Mark couldn't answer this and I dont know if anyone can, not that it really matters, but I am curious as to opinions.

My second question lo. When I left this company, we all went to the pub after a farewell dinner and all got on the turps. About halfway through the evening Mark made a comment about a guy standing at the bar. I asked him with a laugh how on earth he could tell the other guy was gay. Mark replied that he could spot one a mile off and had never known himself to be wrong. How on earth could he do that? I can't tell shit about people lol, so it was kinda interesting that he had what he called his 'gaydar'

So yeah...they're the questions. Any ideas?

the first one is very interesting. i should say that i am gay, not transgendered, and that gender is a different issue from orientation. my guess would be this -- in my experience, and this is anecdotal, but women tend to be able to be attracted to either gender much more so than men do, where as with men it is much more cut and dried. for men, sexual intimacy creates emotional intimacy; and vice versa for women (again, in general). my guess is that the woman might socially and politically identify as a lesbian, but she is now engaging in heterosexual intercourse with a man (though i really don't know how parts are reconstructed, or if intercourse is even a part of their relationship). chances are she loves this person, whether as a male or female, and the physicality of gender is incidental to the love between the two.

gaydar is an amazing thing, and it does exist. mine is pretty good, but no one's gaydar is perfect. i usually notice two things that tip me off: 1) attention to appearance, 2) usually a very receptive, almost eager scanning of a room with the eyes (looking for other gay people). it's not much of a secret that gay men are as obsessed with appearance as much as straight women are (which is why they become such fast friends). both are subjects of what we call in lit theory "the male gaze" and it is a very powerful thing. you know you are being judged on how you look, and superficial as it might be, you do it to (as a gay man). it's not necessarily that gay men have better clothes or fashion sense (many do), but there's attention paid to details. is the hair perfectly gelled? does he shave well? is the shirt tucked in and the sleeves rolled just so? are his nails smooth? does he have good shoes? again, this is less about money and expense than about attention to detail. second, you are always on the lookout for other gay people. some of it is merely affirmation -- yay! other gay people! i'm not so alone! how do you figure this out? usually by seeing the traditional signs and signifiers of homosexuality (attention to appearance, also demeanor, also paying attention to certain gay trends ... shaved heads is big right now, creative body piercings, being over 40 and in great shape because you spend 5 nights a week at the gym), and then catching someone's eye and making all sorts of non-verbal eye contact. this isn't like trying to blink "come back to my place after the movie" in morse code, but more like catching someone's attention and acknowledging a commonality. also being aware of where you are -- in a major coastal city, for example.

i should also add that there are shlubby, unfashionable gay men who do none of these thigns. and there are straight men who ooze gayness. i'd say gaydar works abbout 70% of the time.
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I throw off gay men all the time. I've been labeled as a metrosexual...
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Why are you trying to destroy traditional marriage?

Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?

Who's your friend?
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