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Old 03-18-2005, 04:24 AM   #46
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Is Dijon in France?
Yes, Dijon is in France.
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:25 AM   #47
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:29 AM   #48
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Which is the most popular rock artist from Holland ( with lyrics in English).

I had heard some songs by Ayreon and I remember loving it !!

Anyone bigger than Ayreon..and better ?
I think the most popular depends on the region. Golden Earring is/was very popular (and they're still going strong!), especially with their hit Radar Love (which is already 30 years old or so).
Then there is the best Dutch rock band ever, Urban Dance Squad. They had some success in the USA with Deeper Shade Of Soul (and were also quite popular in France, IIRC).
Since many know the song Venus and because Nirvana covered the song Love Buzz on their debut single (and album Bleach) I think the band Shocking Blue also deserves a mention.

Of the up and coming band, Within Temptation (goth metal or so) is gaining in popularity beyond our borders.
And is Junkie XL (or JXL for the Elvis Presley remix) still considered rock? If so, then he deserves a mention too.

And then there's of course Ayreon, although that band/project isn't really popular here.

Anyone that I forgot?
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dr teeth gave me this link sometime back

http://www.antiphone.nl/index.php?show=ears&lan=nl
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Ok, I've been mistaken on a couple of things. Of the 7 I mentioned rebelling etc, I thought 'Holland' was one of those provinces. But there is no province called Holland on it's own - one is South Holland, the other North Holland? Which together form the western region? The western bit does seem to make a bit of sense, but it's where Belgium gets sneaky which confuses me. And France as well actually. Is Dijon in France? Some of the Flemish dudes also got known by working for the dukes of Burgandy whose court was there, in Dijon. It influenced a crapload of your art during the middle ages.

Your history is fascinating. I will come over and visit you all one day.
South and North Holland is what it is at present. This together was called Holland. The Netherlands is the total country and nowadays that's called Holland as well by many people. In the past the distinction was very real though. Holland was the center of power, trade, culture, politics and anything important that was going on. The outer regions were there for paying taxes and growing food. So what is now the west part of our country had a different status in the golden age of Holland (when we kicked ass, ruled the sea, and pretty much did what a colonial power should do: oppress the weak, sell slaves and get rich). The south (including what's Belgium now) also had a different religion. They were still mostly Catholic while Holland was mostly protestant. Trouble was a question of time and being disregarded by king and government they had the chance to become very dissatisfied. They cut off from the Netherlands in 1837 and the dutch were more or less (make that more) to acknowledge a new state by the super powers of the time (Hungary-Austria, Germany and England)

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Concise history in 3 short posts, well done
I think this has all cleared up most of my confusion, thank you.
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Old 03-18-2005, 05:30 AM   #52
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Why are all the Dutch (or at least most of them) so damn cool? I mean it...I have been there many times and each time I come away feeling happy and relaxed. If that's what a good liberal, socialist system does, sign me up for a visa.

Also, why the hell do you guys pronounce "g" so funny? :
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Old 03-18-2005, 05:35 AM   #53
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Because other languages can't pronounce that letter properly!





Oh, and for us being Well, that happens with all the rain (and other bad weather) you have here. That'll cool you off.
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Nederlands (Dutch) and German (Deutsch) are closely related, as you probably know. For a long time, the language spoken in the German/Lowlands region was called (by the people who lived there) as Diets, Duits, Deutsch, Duutsch, all dialectal variations of the same word.
Diets, Duits, Deutsch, Duuts, and (by borrowing into English) Dutch all have the meaning '(the language) of the people'. 'Diet' in Middle Dutch, for example, had as its meaning simply 'people'.

At this time (Middle Ages) there was no such thing as The Netherlands or Germany and the entire germanic region of North West Europe was known as Dutch.
When The Netherlands became independent from Spain (16th/17th century) Nederduits (Low Dutch) became more or less the official language of The Netherlands since this was the dialect spoken in the dominant province of The Netherlands: Holland.
For quite some time after that, the Dutch language was called Nederdiets/Nederduits by the Dutch themselves, where Hochdeutsch/Hoogduits (High Dutch) was/is spoken by the German nation(s).
After a while this changed and nowadays we call our language Nederlands (Netherlandic).

Just in case you wanted to know
AAAaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhh. It's like being back in the first year lecture hall!

Knew all that already... but I'm senile at 27 so had forgotten a bit of it!
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I think what my question is, is what region exactly did these Flemish geniuses come from?


Lol. I did my Masters dissertation - 40,000 words - on this precise subject, and a 5,000 word essay on the difference between Flemish Dutch and Dutch as spoken in the Netherlands.

I also did a 10,000 word project on De Vlaamse Beweging, or Flemish Movement, and the Belgian Revolt. I spent a year in Leuven researching it.

Haven't slept in 48 hours so I will not start getting into the subject, as I have no concept of editing, and will end up boring you to tears.
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Old 03-18-2005, 07:07 AM   #56
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I think you can answer that question yourself.
That is not what i asked.
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What is the most positive side of living in the Netherlands ?
For me it's a country where freedom really works. People are pretty much left alone in what they do as long as they don't harm or endanger others. And although there are some changes in this policy, I think it's still pretty laid back.
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