I'm loving the thread. The Christians and the Pagans get it together on a U2 site. How beautiful is that!!!80sU2isBest said:You are certainly entitled to your beliefs, but just know that if you're trying to lump Christianity in with other religions, it just won't work, simply by virtue of the fact that Christ himself made claims to being the only way to God.
financeguy said:I was hoping that some of the Christians might apologise for the witch-burnings. Looks like someone on the moral high ground can't apologise for anything.
At least Jan Pavel II (RIP) apologised for some of the past misdeeds of the Catholic Church.
financeguy said:
Has a lot to do with it, in my view. In you proclaim a religion as fundamentally superior, what do you think that can lead to?
It's called faith. Every religious belief and many scientific theories are built on faith. Not to say that there is no evidence at all, but if you're looking for 100% proof, you won't find it til you pass on.financeguy said:Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
financeguy said:As no religion as provided such evidence, how can it be claimed that Christianity (or any other religion) holds the only path to God? In my view, such a claim is over the top.]
financeguy said:As regards your point about there being only one Christianity, why is it there are so many different churches with different ideas/dogmas within Christianity?
I am truly sorry if by using the term "bible thumper" I offended anyone. I was trying to make light of the fact that I was open to discussing theology with anyone, regardless of their viewpoints, as long as it was done respectfully. I suppose I should have said that instead- but my intent was to lightly "head off at the pass" any attacking or name calling. That I did this by name calling-however lightly intended- was a poor choice and I am sorry for that. I truly was just wanting to find other U2 fans with similar beliefs and lifestyles, and introduce myself a little via this thread. And maybe make people think a little outside their comfort zone with regards to who constitutes a long time U2 listener....80sU2isBest said:
The person who started the thread brought up Christianity first, saying
"I get along with beliefs and non-beliefs of all kinds, just as long as your not a bible thumper!!!"
So, the first "intolerant" statement came from the thread starter herself.
coemgen said:
Is truth more of a fashion thing, or something solid for everyone to hold on to?
The concept of heaven and hell might not be your cup of tea, but what if it's not up to you to decide what happens after you die?
I'm just throwing this out for discussion. Thanks for your reply and, Anu, thanks for yours.
Love Jung! I am a therapist and artist, so alot of his work really speaks to my soul. Did you know it was one of his clients that founded AA? Good old Carl believed that addictions were caused by the clients lack of relationship with God, higher power, whatever. Through many years of anylasis with Jung, one of his clients came up with AA. I think that is cool.verte76 said:Have you ever read Carl Jung? He was into alot of pagan stuff.
Well, I just love Buffy the vampire slayer, and the character of Willow. But mostly that has to do with my comic book obsession! I really liked Willow on that show, esp. toward the end when she lost her lover and got too deep into dark magic and had to work her way back out of that. Yeah, it was sci-fi, but also felt really human to me.meegannie said:are there any portrals of witches/pagans in popular culture that you find accurate?
Some people would say yes. I like to give a wider view just because I am personally against those books that tell one to go out and by 80 different herbs and oils and chant certain words to get what you want. It's a little like telling a person who wants to learn to paint to go buy a paint-by-numbers kit and he will be just fine. Silly, right? And in magic, sometimes dangerous. If you begin by understanding the foundations of the craft, then you can begin to make your own spells and structure them accordingly. Or structure them whimsically, or whatever.starsgoblue said:
TinyBubbles, thanks for your reply. So spells (and forgive me if I sound ignorant or rude, cause I just truly don't know) aren't that stereotype of mixing potions and whatnot or is that only in certain circumstances?
Never mess with a Shaman carrying around way more mojo than yourself!!!!wizard2c said:Hi!
I'm familiar with spells.......do you have a special Bono spell?
carol
wizard2c
80sU2isBest said:
I believe that Christ is the only way to God because Christ said so. Christ is the God of my faith, so of course, I believe what he said. Why is it hard for you to imagine that followers of a religious faith might actually believe the words of their religion's God?
80sU2isBest said:
Maybe I should ask every witch in this thread to apoligize for what one witch did to a Christian friend of mine back in the late 80s.
Get the point?
Okay. I was looking for a new apartment in a really tight market. Instead of just taking whatever I could get I did a spell to get exactly what I wanted. I did a cleansing ritual and grounded my energy to make sure I would be clear about what I wanted (no outside influences) then asked the Gods that I have personal relationships with to be present to help me. I might have lit a candle to acknowledge their presence. I sat with paper and pastels and in a light trance drew the place I wanted to move to. I put the picture on my altar and named it.foray said:
Can you describe one simple spell you've done that's worked?
foray
Depends on the day. Like most peoplebeatlesboy said:Are you a good witch or a bad witch?
Tinybubbles said:and Yeats! I became interested in Yeats through the ceremonial magic connection (Golden Dawn, O.T.O.) via Alister Crowley because we share the same birthdate
That sounds like it describes alot of Irish people!financeguy said:
He seemed to have the knack of getting on with people plus he was a great, great poet.
Me too. We should talk... Although a thread about Crowley might be a little much around here... innocent people might have their minds blown wide open!! I liked old Al, he was wierd, fallable and human, and occasionally brilliant. And his girlfriend never gets enough credit for being the one who actually channeled most of the Book of Law!financeguy said:
Anyway I look forward to more discussions about Yeats, Crowley, etc, I'm quite interested in both of them
Tinybubbles said:
Although a thread about Crowley might be a little much around here... innocent people might have their minds blown wide open!!
"Ask A Witch." I asked her a question.financeguy said:So what has Marilyn Manson got to do with this thread?