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Old 03-03-2008, 02:52 PM   #16
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^I think she was referring to my comment. It was sarcasm, which is my second language. Sorry, if I confused Verte or anyone else!
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She's a Republican journalist. To think that the Republican Party introduced and supported the Equal Rights Amendment from 1940's to 1980. The party was also pro-choice up until Reagan. The the crazies took over the GOP. She is one of them.
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I don't know, I know plenty of socially conservative Republican women and I can't think of any who talk remotely like that (although I do think she was deliberately going over the top for much of it, which is part of what struck me as Paglia-esque about it).
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Now that I've had time to recover from initial "What the bleep was THAT?" reaction, I'm wondering how this got into the Washington Post. If it were loony ramblings on someone's blog, I'd just roll my eyes at it, but the Washington Post is supposed to have some standards. Would they print a column asking the question "Are black people stupid?"
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Would they print a column asking the question "Are black people stupid?"
No

Self loathing is a complex issue, that's my initial impression of the whole thing
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Charlotte Allen is at the helm of the majorly misnomered anti-feminist organization Independent Women's Forum (IWF). The IWF uses the language of empowerment to basically tell women, "Get back in the kitchen, bitch, and make me a sandwich." Except for women like Charlotte Allen because she's such a "speshul weshul snowflake." She is in the same vein as Phyllis Schlafly, Dr. Laura and Ann Coulter.

And if this is supposed to be satire, Ms. Allen has done a piss poor job of it. She's no Jonathan Swift. The late Katharine Graham must be rolling in her grave.

Oh, and did someone want to see a picture of Ms. Allen? Here it is:http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/...en_140x140.jpg
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I'm gonna need a lot more beer.
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I'm gonna need a lot more beer.

I was waiting for something like that.
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Snort. And they say feminists are unattractive.
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So for the men,

Gloria Steinem circa 1970 or Charlotte Allen

Take your time, fellas.
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So for the men,

Gloria Steinem circa 1970 or Charlotte Allen

Take your time, fellas.
Gloria Steinem is in her mid-seventies and still looks good:
http://www.observer.com/files/imagec...0Steinem1V.jpg

As for younger feminists, we have:
Susan Faludi
http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/20...aludi_1015.jpg

Naomi Wolf
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...f-naomi184.jpg

Jessica Valenti
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/...ti_140x140.jpg

Amy Richards
http://www.inthesetimes.com/images/29/10/richards.jpg

Jennifer Baumgardner
http://www.timeout.com/newyork/expor...t.jennifer.jpg

Amanda Marcotte
http://media.newsbusters.org/media/2...19Marcotte.jpg

Hmm, not exactly a parade of ugly.
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Because I am a team player

I'll take em all

you can even arrange the order.

but, of course for that to happen
women would have to be stupid
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March 03, 2008
Read More: Washington Post

Wash Post editor says controversial piece was 'tongue-in-cheek'

On the front of Sunday’s Outlook section, in the Washington Post, two articles were placed under the banner, “Women vs. Women.”

It’s the second piece, titled "We Scream, We Swoon. How Dumb Can We Get?” by Charlotte Allen that immediately fired up the blogosphere, and prompted Media Matters to get involved.

“If it insulted people, that was not the intent,” Outlook editor John Pomfret told me this morning, calling the piece “tongue-in-cheek.”

Pomfret said that Allen pitched the idea to him as a riff on women fainting at Obama rallies, and similarities with the Beatles.

Allen wrote:

"I can't help it, but reading about such episodes of screaming, gushing and swooning makes me wonder whether women—I should say 'we women,"'of course—aren't the weaker sex after all. Or even the stupid sex, our brains permanently occluded by random emotions, psychosomatic flailings and distraction by the superficial."



“She wanted to make fun of this issue,” Pomfret said. “A lot of people have taken it very seriously.”

But Allen didn't stop there. She continued on with countless stereotypes about how women are supposedly inferior to men. We're talking smaller brains, loving Grey's Anatomy, and being bad at math and driving. Ugh.

And those are just a few things that set off bloggers on the left and right.

Feministing:

“Professional anti-feminists make too much bank to ever stop writing sexist drivel. The Washington Post, however—who claims to be so concerned about how to appeal to women that it convened a task force on the subject—should know better."

Hot Air:

“Rarely have I read a newspaper column that shocks me for its sheer breadth of nonsense, but today’s effort by Charlotte Allen in the Washington Post provides one of those I-can’t-believe-she-wrote-that moments."

And Media Matters jumped on the piece, too.

Pomfret said that being an opinion article, he’s not surprised readers reacted to it strongly. But added: “Perhaps it wasn’t packaged well enough to make it clear that it was tongue-in-cheek.”

Even if intended as a joke, the Allen piece clearly isn't the best way for the Post to achieve its goal of bringing in more women readers, and it remains to be seen if the fallout continues today.

“It’s not the first time in opinion journalism that something has fallen flat,” Pomfret said.

UPDATE: There were so many responses to the WaPo piece, and I just noted a couple early critical ones. Also worth checking out: Jezebel, Glamocracy, and Eat the Press (which has links to several more).
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