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Old 09-30-2005, 12:20 PM   #31
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the econo is only a deathtrap when it hits an SUV.
Having driven one for years, I'd fear going over a speed bump too fast.
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Having driven one for years, I'd fear going over a speed bump too fast.
Perhaps that's why they're called speed bumps.
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In order to give everyone an equal opportunity of injury/survival in an auto accident, we should take away a choice that gives you a better chance of survival???


what if your better chance of survival results in a better chance of death to the people who aren't in your car?
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Sorry, if someone is going to hit me, I'd prefer to live. Or, at least have the opportunity to make that choice.
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Sorry, if someone is going to hit me, I'd prefer to live. Or, at least have the opportunity to make that choice.


it's nice when you can afford an SUV.

too bad some people can't.

or someone, like me, doesn't even own a car and nearly gets wiped out by an SUV (with a big flippin' "W" sticker) while in a crosswalk.
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pedestrians face the same risks from econos

And if you can afford a vehicle, you can afford an SUV
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pedestrians face the same risks from econos
I'm confused. Did you bother to read the information posted earlier in the thread or are you just assuming that it's false?

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Dangers to pedestrians:

Researchers from the Department of Mechanical Engineering, Rowan University in America discovered that somebody hit by a large 4x4 vehicle would be more than twice as likely to die as someone hit by a normal sized car [2].

What makes 4x4s so dangerous to pedestrians?

· The point of impact on the body is higher if hit by a 4x4, meaning it is more likely to cause head and chest injuries, rather than leg and lower body injuries. This particularly applies to collisions involving children, due to the height of their head and chest.

...etc.

from http://www.brake.org.uk/index.php?p=267
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I'm confused. Did you bother to read the information posted earlier in the thread or are you just assuming that it's false?

I read the information. It is a simple matter of playing with statistics. The article clearly recognizes that people hit by non-SUVs die as well. I don't find much comfort if someone says "don't worry, you'll be hit by a smaller car"
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And if you can afford a vehicle, you can afford an SUV
How does "twice as likely to die" actually translate into "the same risks"?
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pedestrians face the same risks from econos

And if you can afford a vehicle, you can afford an SUV

we paid around $4,000 dollars for my now dead (used) Toyota Corolla.

do you think i could get an SUV for the same amount?

so the answer, you posit, is that we all should drive SUVs?

oil doesn't grow on trees, you know ...
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Same risk of getting hit by a car.

I'm not sure the "security" in getting hit by a smaller car justifies a banning of SUVs.
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Same risk of getting hit by a car.

I'm not sure the "security" in getting hit by a smaller car justifies a banning of SUVs.

no, not the banning, but it's just another reason why Satan drives an SUV.

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Theres a couple of articles I have read that confirm the higher risk of pedestrians when hit by SUV.

We´re not always talking about dying, but about injuries. What if an SUV hits a pedestrian with 20 mph? Compared to a Renault Twingo.
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no, not the banning, but it's just another reason why Satan drives an SUV.

I wouldn't oppose banning really, I think the toll on traffic safety and the environment is too high. The difficulty lies with catagorizing SUVs unfortunately. For now I'm glad they tightened the laws on bullbars though.

Perhaps as a start we could replace SUV airbags with rusty spikes to level the playing field. After all, SUV drivers would still face the same risks ask other drivers right (to have an accident that is...)?
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