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Old 02-07-2008, 06:29 PM   #1
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Archbishop of Canterbury Calls For Use of Sharia Law in UK

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The Archbishop of Canterbury caused consternation yesterday by calling for Islamic law to be recognised in Britain.

He declared that sharia and Parliamentary law should be given equal legal status so the people could choose which governs their lives.

This raised the prospect of Islamic courts in Britain with full legal powers to approve polygamous marriages, grant easy divorce for men and prevent finance firms from charging interest.

His comments in a BBC interview and a lecture to lawyers were condemned at a time when government ministers are striving to encourage integration and stop the nation from "sleepwalking to segregation".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...e_id=1770&ct=5

So, I guess he's OK with adulterous women and homosexuals being stoned to death?

And is this really the way to handle an increasingly diverse nation? I think it wouldn't put a stop to segregation, but create more of it. There wouldn't be a single Britain, but a Muslim Britain, and a non-Muslim Britain.
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It seems that many and even most religions do not lead to sound, rational thinking.

The Buddhist belief system seems fairly benign and healthy.
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Are you criticizing Islam? If so, why?
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I've been questioning his sense of judgment for a while now, and this makes me question it further.
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Are you criticizing Islam? If so, why?
I think most religions
are not based on good sound thinking,

That would include Islam and many forms of what people are calling Christianity, today.

I did not want to imply that I believe this about all religions.

That is why I mentioned Buddhism.

The Buddhist traditions i.e., meditations, finding inner peace, and accepting that suffering is part of the human condition seem to have some good benefit and do not harm other people.


As for this article, I have heard it in the news cycles today.

And I do not agree with the Archbishop.

I do not believe governments should respect religious laws. (period)

People that choose to practice, follow or be subject to Religious decrees?, that is fine for them.
After all it is a life style choice.
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Buddhism has definitely been spread by the sword on occasion historically, and in Sri Lanka Buddhist monks have often been leaders of Sinhalese militant groups. Many Westerners would certainly find certain cultural standards concerning women and marriage (since the above excerpt touches on those) prevalent in some traditionally Buddhist regions disagreeable. Now I don't personally think for a minute that Buddhism innately "causes" people to hold such beliefs or perform such actions, but then I also don't buy the idea that you can predict what sort of behavior to expect from adherents of any religion simply by looking at its scriptures and core forms of observance. Especially when its adherents happen to be the politically, socially, economically and/or culturally dominant group in a given area.
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I've been questioning his sense of judgment for a while now, and this makes me question it further.
No kidding...
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Buddhism has definitely been spread by the sword on occasion historically, and in Sri Lanka Buddhist monks have often been leaders of Sinhalese militant groups. Many Westerners would certainly find certain cultural standards concerning women and marriage (since the above excerpt touches on those) prevalent in some traditionally Buddhist regions disagreeable. Now I don't personally think for a minute that Buddhism innately "causes" people to hold such beliefs or perform such actions, but then I also don't buy the idea that you can predict what sort of behavior to expect from adherents of any religion simply by looking at its scriptures and core forms of observance. Especially when its adherents happen to be the politically, socially, economically and/or culturally dominant group in a given area.



Yolland,

Do you support the Archbishop's statements?


My opinions are based on observations of how religions are practiced here in the United States, and in particular with my interactions with adherents of said religions.


Am I surprised that "in groups" will oppress "out groups", in some parts of the world? Even when they are Buddhist?
No.
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Yolland,

Do you support the Archbishop's statements?
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I've been questioning his sense of judgment for a while now, and this makes me question it further.
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No kidding...
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My opinions are based on observations of how religions are practiced here in the United States, and in particular with my interactions with adherents of said religions.
OK. That wasn't clear to me at all from the way your earlier posts were worded.
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I have been over-occupied with a huge project (for a few weeks) that will be over tomorrow night


I do take responsibility, for my less than clear postings of late,

I have not had the time to follow up with the information to support my writings

I owe it to the members of this forum to do better
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I can relate...I've been dealing with an unwelcome family crisis for about a week now myself.

We all have our ups and downs whether in terms of thoroughness or just having a shorter fuse than usual...it's to be expected.
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Americans, please learn to love your first amendment.
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The sainted bearded wonder has completely lost the plot.

I'm not precisely sure on what the purpose of the Church of England is at this point in time, but it is a church that started off by giving approval to the King of England to cut his wife's head off, so giving approval to Islamist mysogynist bigots is probably fairly consistent.
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I think it's quite cunning, I mean the CoE has been faithless for a long time, probably good for the Church to embrace people who actually believe in God.

At this pace when the crypto-Muslim Prince Charles gets to the throne the church can match his views
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I'm not precisely sure on what the purpose of the Church of England is at this point in time,
It seems to be little more than a cultural artifact to me. Much like the monarchy itself, actually.
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Give enlightenment values a boost by pushing for disestablishment.

Love this quote "What we don't want either, is I think, a stand-off, where the law squares up to people's religious consciences." This from a man who feels religious conciences can stand over free speech.
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