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Old 11-03-2004, 09:39 AM   #91
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Then how come anti-gay legislation passed in states that 90% of the time went to Bush? Doesn't that embarass you?
It embarasses me that that issue is even politicized. I think I am going to copy what I wrote at another forum cause I can't be bothered typing it all out again.

This is what I wrote at the @U2 forum....

As far as the issue of gay unions go Bush being re-elected has nothing to do with that, at least here in Georgia. I think it was a total of nine states that actually had it listed on the ballot seperately, for people to either vote in favor of defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman or against it.

I chose not to vote either way because I feel that it is an issue that should not be politicized. I think that the concept of marriage is something that churches have dominion over. My problem lies with churches that allow gay marriages. I mean if someone is gay thats that, but for a church to say it is perfectly acceptable when the Bible clearly states it isn't, then, I have a problem.

If a church doesn't want to believe the Bible then they shouldn't be a church. If people in general want to believe the Bible then they should believe all of it, don't pick and choose what accomodates your own perticular lifestyle. If people don't want to believe the Bible then so be it. I just think the lines need to be drawn on that, and I don't think the government should be in the postion of holding the pen that does it.

As far as people voting for Bush, I think the issue of gay unions was the last thing on their minds. I think it was more to do with national security and the feelings that Bush has done a tremendous job in terms of strengthening our country on that front. ......

And I went on to state why I felt the American people as a whole voted as they did...

So does it embarass me? In a word... no.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:45 AM   #92
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I'm American, I'm a first year voter, and I'm disenchanted at these course of events. The USA political system is corrupt beyond repair. I just don't see how so many people support someone who is so uncompromising and unintelligent to our president.
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I'm American, I'm a first year voter, and I'm disenchanted at these course of events. The USA political system is corrupt beyond repair. I just don't see how so many people support someone who is so uncompromising and unintelligent to our president.
The system worked just fine. Your guy just lost.

P.S. The guy I voted for lost, too.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:50 AM   #94
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I truly hope you get what you voted for, USA.
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I truly hope you get what you voted for, USA.
That's usually why someone votes.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:55 AM   #96
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That's usually why someone votes.
Exactly.

And the USA voted for war.

Be my guest, get the wars you want.
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But what about Brooklyn, Manhattan and Queens? How did Kerry win those three boroughs with at least 70% of the vote in each? And really headache, when was the last time you at the Trade Center site? When was the last time you rode the subway into Lower Manhattan on a weekday and walked around?
i'm in manhattan usually about 2 to 3 times a week, at least. and every time i make it a point to go down to the trade center site, thank you.

and every day i drive past memorials for people who died from my home town... including my neighbor.

we all knew too many people who died. because you live geographicly closer doesn't make your pain any greater, nor any less.
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Exactly.

And the USA voted for war.

Be my guest, get the wars you want.
Errm
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Exactly.

And the USA voted for war.

Be my guest, get the wars you want.
Damn, dude! You really need to get over yourself!
Find a hobby or something, maybe it'll release some of your hostility!
Take deep breathes
(And I thought I was high-strung)
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Damn, dude! You really need to get over yourself!
Find a hobby or something, maybe its release some of your hostility!
Take deep breathes
Cute.
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Cute.
Thank you. I'm glad you think so!
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Who wants to move to Australia? LOL

Ah, laughing...it seems the only thing I can do in this state of disappointment and shock is to laugh it off. It's not really working.
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let's annalyze this for a second...

the states that approved the gay marrage ban are arkansas, georgia, kentucky, michigan, mississippi, montana, north dakota, ohio, oklahoma, oregon and utah

all of those states went for bush with the exception of michigan and oregon

--bush won arkansas 55% to 44%, the gay marrage ban won 75% to 25%
--bush won georgia 59% to 41%, the gay marrage ban won 77% to 23%
--bush won kentucky 60% to 40$, the gay marrage ban won 75% to 25%
--kerry won michigan 51% to 48%, the gay marrage ban won 59% to 41%
--bush won mississippi 60% to 40%, the gay marrage ban won 86% to 14%
--bush won montana 59% to 39%, the gay marrage ban won 66% to 44%
--bush won north dakota 63% to 36%, the gay marrage ban won 73% to 27%
--bush won ohio 51% to 49%, the gay marrage ban won 62% to 38%
--bush won oklahoma 66% to 34%, the gay marrage ban won 76% to 24%
--kerry won oregon 52% to 47%, the gay marrage ban won 57% to 43%
--bush won utah 71% to 37%, the gay marrage ban won 66% to 34%

the point? many kerry voters voted for the gay marrage ban. in every state, the % of people who voted for the ban was more than the % of people who voted for bush, with the exception of utah... where more people actually voted for bush than voted for the ban. people from the south, midwest, north and west, red states and blue states, voted for the ban. to use this as the reason kerry lost would be, at best, an incomplete reason.



on a side note, if this ever came up for vote in new york, i would vote against the ban.
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Old 11-03-2004, 10:29 AM   #105
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Dont fucking yell at me. I did my part. You can complain all you want, but how do you think it feels to actually live in it right now.
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