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Old 11-03-2004, 07:06 AM   #46
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Hey everybody! Can you say "Gen-er-al-ize"? How about "O-ver-sim-pli-fy"? Sure you can!
Can you say pat-ro-nize? Sure you can!
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Wait, I thought only Southern rednecks who marry their sisters voted for Bush.
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Once again I agree with you....

I miss Bill Clinton...
Me, too, me, too...and I didn't vote for Bill Clinton.
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Can you say pat-ro-nize? Sure you can!
Again, Pro-Kerry here. But it is unjust and uncalled for to lump all Bush supporters in one category. That said, the democratic party could use greater unity to match that of the republican party. Too many interest groups make it difficult for people to identify across the board. So if Republicans can make an appeal to just one of those interest groups, it would take away a large number of votes from the democrats and essentially ruin them. We need a unified vision.
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I don't think that half the american population are bigots...

Your problem is that you have a Party-system and an election-system that sucks because it isn't adapted to modern society...

This is the problem. There really weren't any decent choices, we had to pick between two unsavory characters. I am not a fan of Bush, but I don't see Kerry as any improvement. Just because he wasn't Bush doesn't make him better than Bush. I never understood all the anti-war people flocking to him. He never said he'd end the war, in fact, he mentioned being over there at least another 5 years! Homosexual marriage? I heard Kerry clearly state in a debate, and repeat, that 'marriage is between a man and a woman.' Jobs? They come and go regardless of who's in office. It's more of a society thing than a political one. It's no politician's fault. Kerry was not the answer most of you seem to think he was, just another problem waiting to happen. His high taxes would have crippled many struggling families and businesses. Hopefully in the future, there will be somebody worthy of our votes, we didn't get that this time.

But to say we don't deserve U2 is dumber than anything I heard in the campaign!
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Hey i didn't vote for Bush. But i have nothing against the people that did. Some of my good friends either voted for him or wanted him to win. I don't think the world is going to end because Bush is probably going to win. I just hope (against all odds) that he won't.
And I would be mad if U2 called off the US tour. Plus, i thought they did get funding for AIDS from Bush, i dont know, someone correct me if i'm wrong.
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Good points, U2 kitten...now i wish i had seen the debates.
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Hey i didn't vote for Bush. But i have nothing against the people that did. Some of my good friends either voted for him or wanted him to win. I don't think the world is going to end because Bush is probably going to win. I just hope (against all odds) that he won't.
And I would be mad if U2 called off the US tour. Plus, i thought they did get funding for AIDS from Bush, i dont know, someone correct me if i'm wrong.


I'm suddenly reminded why I never post in FYM. It's incredibly frustrating. People, myself included, are very difficult to persuade, and things often degenerate into personal attacks. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone. But I just think that we need to notice some of the gray area instead of insisting on absolutes.
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Funny things... looks to me like even the democrats who voted for Bush are kinda pro-Bush too...

Maybe we foreigners are wrong about that 51% percentage of...

Maybe they all deserve him.
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This is the problem. There really weren't any decent choices, we had to pick between two unsavory characters. I am not a fan of Bush, but I don't see Kerry as any improvement. Just because he wasn't Bush doesn't make him better than Bush. I never understood all the anti-war people flocking to him. He never said he'd end the war, in fact, he mentioned being over there at least another 5 years! Homosexual marriage? I heard Kerry clearly state in a debate, and repeat, that 'marriage is between a man and a woman.' Jobs? They come and go regardless of who's in office. It's more of a society thing than a political one. It's no politician's fault. Kerry was not the answer most of you seem to think he was, just another problem waiting to happen. Hopefully in the future, there will be somebody worthy of our votes, we didn't get that this time.

But to say we don't deserve U2 is dumber than anything I heard in the campaign!
Exactly. It was the tale of two evils. That's exactly how I felt about Kerry...just another problem waiting to happen.

I voted for Kerry but my extended family voted for Bush. I couldn't sway them...and no, I don't think they're idiots. I see they have good reasons to vote for Bush, too.
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But it is unjust and uncalled for to lump all Bush supporters in one category
I very much agree and I have already stated that. I only thought that you were lumping all the people in this thread into one category as well...

But I still think there should be a broader variety of parties. This would make it easier for the general public to find a party to whose issues they can agree. Because as it is now the issues are to narrow.
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Good points, U2 kitten...now i wish i had seen the debates.
Thanks. And Bush and congress (he can't do it alone) DID approve several billion $ for AIDS in Africa!

And thanks U2Traveller too.
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i meant, democrats who voted for Kerry.
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Funny things... looks to me like even the democrats who voted for Bush are kinda pro-Bush too...

Maybe we foreigners are wrong about that 51% percentage of...

Maybe they all deserve him.
The democrats who voted for Bush are pro-Bush? Well, duh!
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I very much agree and I have already stated that. I only thought that you were lumping all the people in this thread into one category as well...
No, I was referring to specific posters, but even that is risky business. I hate FYM. I hate the person I become when discussing politics. I want to be a hermit.
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