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Old 11-09-2004, 05:13 PM   #46
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thanks mark that was very kind.
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Old 11-09-2004, 05:19 PM   #47
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I think you just have to kind of play it by ear...it does sound like you do have friends on the board though, and that does help. Hard to deal with the fact that supposedly good people can be so hateful, but I'll tell you, power does seem to bring out the worse in some people. I don't know quite why, but committee's just seem to make people ugly.
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Old 11-09-2004, 05:32 PM   #48
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This is such a big decision to play by ear, but as my mom just said "welcome to the adult world." But now that we've been talking about it I wouldn't mind moving. I'd be going off to college anyway.
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oh, U2D

this is terrible news.

Well, I'm an ex-Catholic/Christian, but I still take [as i still consider him a spirtual master just not the way i did growing up] Jesus's Sermon on the Mount as much as i can to heart.... Do unto others....& what you do for the least of these you do to me...

So I often find massive amounts of hypocrasy [i mean we all have some] among people who call themselves 'religious' [following a set religion] very agregvating-- as i feel many of these very right-wing Neo-con republicans are.

My prayers to you & your dad and rest of your family. He sounds like he's done alot for your current church.

Do talk to someone else professional though to help keep your self in some kind of balance, so you can do the yhings that need to be done for yourself.

andkeep coming here to talk to us.
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Old 11-09-2004, 05:42 PM   #50
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I just wish i had a definitive answer of whether or not we're moving in the next year......whether or not my tuition will be fully paid.....there's so many HUUUUUGE decisions up in the air right now it's so aggrivating.
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members....alot.

people who actually attend on sundays, about 120.
My church has about the same size of attendees.

I hope the other members of the Church stand up to the "weasels". My thoughts and prayers will be with your family during this outrage.
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It really is unfortunate that this sort of thing goes on in a group that's supposedly together for the love of God. Some people in churches don't really understand why they're in a church in the first place. It sure as heck isn't to stab people in the back.
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as my dad put it, they don't have much control in other aspects of their lives, but church gives them a chance to have power/control. it's very sad.
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I am very sorry to hear that, U2democrat.

Please give my kindest regards to your father, he doesn´t know me ok.. however. The Lord will bless him for his good work. He knows everything.

I don´t know why you are not allowed to make your case openly. Is there any possibility he could write a letter to the bishop? I mean, I don´t understand the system.. who pays the salary, isn´t it the church? And what about the higher authorities there? The ones that have to be able to decide without letting their political opinion direct their intrigues? Just a thought, maybe this matter should be dealt with.

Good luck.

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How awful! You'll be in my prayers.

Stammer, I really enjoyed your post. Ah, the kids are alright!

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PS Even if they don't vote!
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He never talks politics with people in the church. But still people know where he stands, especially with his liberal views from the pulpit.


In the above quote you said he has liberal views from the pulpit. So I guess I'm trying to figure out what exactly you mean by that.
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In the above quote you said he has liberal views from the pulpit. So I guess I'm trying to figure out what exactly you mean by that.
He's liberal in aspects other than politics. He challenges people and prods them to examine their faith. He never brings up politics in the pulpit.


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We don't have bishops. In the end the congregation decides, so our fate is up to them.
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Hope this will give you a little of power, U2democrat, regarding your future in college.

"Keep Cool" by Marcus Mosiah Garvey, 1927

Suns have set and suns will rise
Upon many gloomy lives;
Those who sit around and say:
"Nothing good comes down our way."
Some say: "What's the use to try,
Life is awful hard and dry."
If they'd bring such news to you,
This is what you ought to do.

Let no trouble worry you;
Keep cool, keep cool!
Don't get hot like some folk do,
Keep cool, keep cool!
What's the use of prancing high
While the world goes smiling by.
You can win if you would try,
Keep cool, keep cool.

Throw your troubles far away,
Smile a little every day,
And the sun will start to shine,
Making life so true and fine.
Do not let a little care
Fill your life with grief and fear:
Just be calm, be brave and true,
Keep your head and you'll get through.

Let no trouble worry you;
Keep cool, keep cool!
just be brave and ever true;
Keep cool, keep cool!
If they'd put you in a flame,
Though you should not bear the blame,
Do not start to raising cane,
Keep cool, keep cool.
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Hope this will give you a little of power, U2democrat, regarding your future in college.
Throw your troubles far away,
Smile a little every day,
And the sun will start to shine,
Making life so true and fine.
so true, so true.

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